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Is it true that Macintosh is very safe in that viruses cannot get through? And what about emails? Can others sniff and get info using mac?

Yes they are.

No they are not.

And I just know what the comments on this article are going to be like...

First, a disclaimer: I do not own a Macintosh. I've come very close a time or two for various reasons, but have yet to do so. What follows is my opinion based on my understanding of the technologies involved, the state of the industry, and some assumptions about how hackers think. Yes, that last point is perhaps the most important part of this discussion.

"All software has bugs. Period. There is no such thing as perfect software."

I answered by saying that a Macintosh is very safe (presumably in comparison to Windows based computers) and that it is also not any safer. Let's look at why I say both.

Position #1: The Macintosh is no safer than Windows.

All software has bugs. Period. There is no such thing as perfect software. Systems are too complex for all possible outcomes and situations to be predicted and handled properly. Developers are human, and development teams are similarly complex systems that can only produce imperfect results.

Why do I go out of my way to say that? Because "all software" includes Macintosh software, and security exploits are simply the result of a class of programming or design error or "bug".

I firmly believe that the Macintosh operating system and Mac applications contain their share of vulnerabilities. More than Windows? Fewer than Windows? I don't know, but it doesn't really matter, because they are there.

So why don't we hear about Mac exploits like we do about Windows? That's because:

Position #2: The Macintosh is much safer than Windows.

I recently read that Macintosh has 4% market share. Over generalizing, that means 1 out of every 25 personal computers is a Mac.

And that's the reason you don't hear about massive vulnerabilities or spyware or any of that other stuff we've come to associate with Windows. Not because it couldn't be done, but because no one's bothered to do it.

It's not worth it.

This is where we start trying to think like a hacker. If you wanted to cause trouble, would you write something that upset 1 out of every 25 computers? Or would you target the other 24? If you wanted to install spyware, would you write it such that it worked on 4% of computers or 96%?

If you hated Microsoft, would you write a virus for the Mac?

The answer for all of that should be fairly obvious. Apple and the Macintosh simply aren't as big a target as Microsoft and Windows. As a result, you are inherently safer on a Mac, because almost no one is actively trying to cause you trouble.

But, don't get too comfortable yet, because:

Position #1, revisited: The Macintosh is no safer than Windows.

Some things are platform independent. You asked specifically about sniffing, which I take to mean monitoring your internet traffic. The answer there is that the Macintosh suffers from all the same vulnerabilities that Windows or any other computer on the internet does. Internet traffic can be monitored, plain text email can be captured, email and websites can still fool you into doing things you shouldn't.

So please, don't think you're totally safe because you're on a Mac. Safer, yes, but immune? Not at all.

So if the Mac is safer, albeit only because it's not as big a target, why is Windows so popular? That's a complex questions that'll generate about as many opinions as anything else. My thoughts: You can get Windows on a wide variety of computers from a wide variety of manufacturers ... you can only get Apple's operating system for Apple's hardware. There's more software available for Windows. Macs tend to be more expensive. Many corporations and schools have standardized on Windows.

That's not to say that Apples aren't worthwhile computers ... in a nutshell, they rock, and I know it. Apple's known for a superior and consistant user interface, as well as a fairly seamless hardware experience. But Windows wins market share on cost and flexibilty.

And given that more market share makes you a bigger target ... maybe Apple's happy to let someone else take the bullets.

Update:

As I expected the Mac crowd has weighed in loudly. Perhaps the best "counter-argument" I've seen so far to my article is here: MacDailyNews: Apple Macs are inherently safer and more secure than Microsoft Windows. I put "counter-argument" in quotes, only because we arrive at the same conclusion - Mac's are safer - we just get there through very different means.

I encourage you to read the many comments below. The furor is that I've come to the right conclusion - Mac's are safer - for the wrong reasons. In between the "Leo's an idiot" statements (which, of course, I hope you'll ignore), is good information, and many more reasons Mac users love their Mac's.

While there are many articles that discuss the points tackled here, a reader pointed me to this one - "Broken Windows" - I found it to be a well stated summary of much of what my commentors are saying.

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Article C2466 - November 21, 2005

Leo Leo A. Notenboom has been playing with computers since he was required to take a programming class in 1976. An 18 year career as a programmer at Microsoft soon followed. After "retiring" in 2001, Leo started Ask Leo! in 2003 as a place for answers to common computer and technical questions. More about Leo.

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I own 2 macs, and have used many PCs in my life. Ive never had a virus on either Mac or Windows. I know for a fact that they both are susceptible to viruses, and that there never will be a computer immune. I would have to say that the Macintosh community as a whole is less at risk for viruses because Mac users seem to love their computers to the point they dont want to break them, Mac is built on unix which is historically more secure, and the Mac requires you enable anything you download to execute before it runs. Windows just seems so much more vulnerable, all a virus needs to do is attack a few select folders, which any user can access, to wreak havoc.

To counter all those that say that linux is the safest, its only because the people who write linux and run it are, for the most part, computer programmers and would love nothing more than to just have their own little operating system for free. Also why would linux users write viruses for each other?

And to anyone who says Mac cant get a virus, my antivirus has over 500 000 virus definitions in its database. Im not sure about how many there actually are.

Great article Leo, very thought provoking on the issue, but perhaps next time a little more research?

Posted by: Henry at November 9, 2009 6:16 PM

For mac i use Protemac Netmine. I have Leopard and use it for protects against viruses and as firewall.It's helps me a lot.

Posted by: Joseph at March 13, 2010 12:15 PM

Well i'm not a technical whizz kid or geek but I have been using Mac for about 15 yrs with great pleasure and would not go back to windows. But i feel this discussion goes way back to when Bill Gates took, what Apple considered to be an inherently unstable os, and made it into Windows. He took it and ran with it and got the market while Apple studiously got down to creating a stable os. Windows have been successively building on an inherently unstable system ever since, in my opinion. Each new Windows os being merely a 'patch' on its previous os in its inevitable commercial quest to keep the market. I don't KNOW that this is true but it is my opinion. Great site Leo and if i knew what 'HTML tags for style' was I would use them.

Posted by: Dave Watts at March 16, 2010 7:15 PM

Just wanted to say "Thanks" Leo. I have been a Mac user for over 20 years and probably will be for the next 20. However, I truly appreciate the fact that you took on the issue and helped to answer the issue of Macs and crapware.

Posted by: Greg Mattson at October 9, 2011 9:47 AM

I have always been a Windows user for number of reasons, primarily I like the choices to customise a PC. However I have occasionally use a Mac and I have to say it's a solid well-built machine. If we're a true hardware lover then we can appreciate anything no matter where that piece of machinery comes from.

And yes I have been seen seeing new types of malware hitting Macs especially rogue software which is so common on Windows. The first rogue was a simple affair of removing and now I saw it can bypass the admin. That reminds me of how when the first rogue appeared on Windows, a simple affair of removing and now a nightmare. I don't wish callouslly that Mac users get the same taste of us Windows users for tearing our hair out in frustration removing stubborn today rogues.

Any computers having Windows, Linux and Macs, we should always be vigilant and educated in making our computers safer to use.

Posted by: Josh at November 2, 2011 8:14 AM
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