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Audio CDs - what format should I use to burn my Audio CDs?

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Summary: Audio CDs are different from data CDs. Typically your burning software needs to know how to create audio CDs, and you need to explicitly tell it to do so.

When I download music and then burn it to a CD it comes out just fine. However I can not play the CD in my car CD player. The music is most always MP3. Is there a way I can convert the MP3 to play in my car? And what format are store bought CD's done in?

CDs you use on your computer, and CDs that you use in a standard CD player such as the one in your car are formatted quite differently. And while you can play those store-bought audio CDs in your computer, your computer's CDs are most likely not going to work in your car stereo or other audio CD player.

In a nutshell, the problem can be over-simplified this way: most car stereo players are not computers.

So what do you do?

Let's look at the two different formats first.

Audio CDs are designed for one purpose, and one purpose only: audio. They contain raw, uncompressed data, in a very fixed format: 44,000 samples per second, with each sample consisting of a 16 bit (2 byte) number for each of the right and left channels.

If you do the math, that's 176,000 bytes per second, or 633,600,000 bytes for an entire hour of audio.

If you've ever seen blank CDs labeled as "70 minute" CDs, it's because they hold, roughly, 740 megabytes of data - enough for about 70 minutes of audio in that audio CD format.

Data CDs, on the other hand, hold anything. They're just another media on which you can store files from your computer. The format of a data CD is similar to the format of a computer hard disk - it has a file system, directories, folders and files.

And therein lies one difference: your car stereo knows nothing about file systems, files, folders and the like. All it knows is how to stream that raw audio data off of an audio format CD. Your computer, being a general purpose device, can do that too, of course, in addition to understanding the format of a data CD.

But there's a second difference.

Note that I said that an audio CD is "uncompressed". Every second takes up 176,000 bytes regardless of whether that's a second of symphony, a second of someone speaking, or a second of silence. MP3 is a compressed format - as is almost every other common audio format for internet downloads and computer use. It uses compression technology to make the file much smaller. A second of silence, for example, is going to require less data than a second of complex sounds. When you play an MP3 file, the software you use decompresses it as it's played.

Your car stereo probably doesn't have a clue about compression, or decompression, or MP3 or whatever else your computer's MP3 player just knows how to deal with.

"... what I want is a 'Line In' port on my car stereo ..."

So what do you do?

If you want to create an audio CD that will work in "plain" CD players, you'll need to use burning software that knows how to create one. I happen to use Roxio's Easy CD Creator, and it will, when burning, automatically decompress my MP3 files to the correct format as required by audio CDs. The trick is simply to select Roxio's "Music Disc Creator" program, and select "Audio CD" as the type of CD you want to create. Other CD burning software will have similar options or approaches.

The "catch", if you want to call it that, is that as I said, the audio CD is uncompressed. That means that while you might have been able to put 7 or 8 hours of MP3s onto a single data CD, you're out of luck: an audio CD will contain only about 70 minutes or so. It may take several audio CDs to hold what you might currently have on a single data CD.

The good news is that CD players are catching up. The ability to play MP3 files from data CDs is slowly appearing in car and home stereo CD players. In other words, like a computer, they'll be able to play both audio and data CDs. But unless that functionality is built in, it's not something that can be added later.

Personally, what I want is a "Line In" port on my car stereo so I can hook up my portable media player - any portable media player, not just the iPod - and listen to my music without ever having to have burned a CD at all. But that appears to be slow in coming.

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Posted by: Leo A. Notenboom at February 2, 2008 11:38 AM

I read this and it explained nothing, I had better luck googleing my question

Posted by: ploy at May 6, 2008 2:49 PM

I'm a little let down after spending such time reading this whole page of information. As I was merely looking for what type of format to use while trying to burn an audio cd for my car, I think this went FAR into too much detail. As they say in the military: K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple, Stupid. Don't get me wrong though, I'm sure all of the detailed information is helpful to someone, I on the other hand will continue my search for what info I was looking for

Posted by: kreak at June 1, 2008 7:23 AM

Commercial audio CD's are in .cda format. Uncompressed, and as noted above, takes up a whole lot more space on a disc, but with the highest quality reproduction. Older cd players like those in many cars or home stereo systems will only recognise this format.
most downloads from the net are in .mp3 format. uses about 1/10th the disc space, but will also have lower reproduction quality. It's the price you pay for saving space. Many new car and home systems now will play almost any format, whether it's .cda .mp3 .wma .wav or other common ones. it will be a case of finding out what format your car player will handle. But it will most definitely take the .cda format.
Burning speed? thats really all it is. the speed at which burner lays the data onto your disc. it wont affect how it is played back, only how fast you can burn the disc. So its usually best to use 1 setting below the maximum for either the burner, or the disc you are burning to (whichever is lowest).

Posted by: Steve at August 17, 2008 8:00 PM

When using Frostwire or Limewire, how do I change the format so that my cds will play on a regular cd player. I use to have no problem. I do not know what I did wrong. Thanks.

Posted by: Byron at September 6, 2008 11:36 PM

This was EXACTLY the type of information I was seeking -- trying to learn more about the difference between the formats. Thanks!

Posted by: Candace at September 9, 2008 12:56 PM

I see in the comments already posted that many, probably knowledgable, people talk about cd players being able to play music with a .cda extension. Well my understanding is that .cda is merely a shortcut and contains indexing information and no audio at all. You can easily prove that by hovering over the file and seeing that it tells you there are only a few bytes on it, typically 44.
But what I'm finding is that even a cd burnt on Windows Media Player (which will also all have this .cda extension) will not play on an older cd machine or car cd player IF it has any mp3 tracks on it. I can't currently prove my theory by changing the format from mp3 to wma because my expensive (£44) Nero 8 program which has never been reliable, now refuses to do anything except lock up the computer, whatever i ask it to do. I've wasted hours/days trying everything, including downloading a new version.

Posted by: Eon at September 27, 2008 6:52 AM

Just a quick update on the post I made yesterday: I tried what others have said about only using CD-R discs and it worked for me too. So that disproved my theory about having mp3 tracks on material to be recorded/played back.
CD-RW discs wouldn't play in the player that was available for the fashion show my wife was in. So that got me out of a hole! Still got to sort out the Nero problem though. (I tried posting this yesterday but after having Nero running I couldn't even load web pages. And I had to turn the power off, again, to do a reboot!)

Posted by: Eon at September 28, 2008 10:09 AM

if my songs are in other formats like WMA, will the program automatically convert it into audio cd formats?

my pc is installed with the nero...

Posted by: WK at October 4, 2008 1:18 AM

LEO , CAN I USE "REAL PLAYER" TO BURN THE SONGS I HAVE STORED IN THE "REAL LIBRARY" ?
THANK YOU J.M

Posted by: John Manitta at October 9, 2008 11:08 AM

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