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Can I run more than one anti-virus program? Anti-spyware program? Firewall? Should I?

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Summary: It's tempting to think more is better for anti-spyware and anti-virus software and firewalls. In reality too many can cause trouble.

With regards to firewalls, anti-virus programs and anti-spyware programs; can I have more than one of each of these programs installed in my computer? For example, I run ZoneAlarm; does that mean I should I turn off Windows firewall?

I've touched on this before but only addressed anti-spyware programs. The question is more common and more general than that, so in this article I'll tackle all of the big three: firewall, anti-spyware, and anti-virus.

Naturally, the answer on running more than one each of those three categories is different, and varies depending on exactly what you're doing.

As a general rule of thumb, you need only one of each. It's what I do. A single, good anti-spyware solution, an anti-virus solution, and a single firewall and, in my opinion, you're good to go.

However, as I've noted elsewhere, there's no single anti-virus or anti-spyware program that will catch all viruses or spyware. So there is a case to be made for having more than one. But if you do, you need to be careful because they can, and often do, interfere with each other.

Anti-Virus

Most anti-virus programs operate in two modes:

  • Scan: the utility examines memory and files on disk for traces of malware. This involves actually examining the contents each file for things that "look like" viruses.

  • Monitor: often referred to as "real time" monitor, the anti virus program is continually running and scans files as they are downloaded to your machine, notifying you nearly immediately if the file you just received contains something that looks like a virus.

There's nothing at all wrong periodically running an anti-virus scan with more than one anti-virus program. The key here is that it's just a scan - it starts, it scans, and then it's done. There's no opportunity to come in to conflict with another anti-virus program.

Real time monitoring, on the other hand, is another story. When you install most anti-virus programs they often automatically install and enable their real-time monitors. Running two or more real-time anti-virus monitors at the same time is very likely to cause a conflict. That conflict could result in error messages, crashes of the anti-virus programs, or other types of failure.

So it's certainly OK to have more than one anti-virus program installed, and it can make sense to run a scan using a different program from time to time, but you must make sure you only have one real-time monitor enabled at a time.

"Running two or more real-time anti-virus monitors at the same time is very likely to cause a conflict."

The simplest way to do so, as I mentioned earlier, is to rely on a single, good anti-virus program and make sure that its database of known viruses is continually being updated.

Anti-Spyware

Anti-spyware tools operate much like anti-virus tools, and that typically means the same two modes:

  • Scan: the utility examines memory and the hard disk for traces of malware. While an anti-spyware program typically does not scan every executable file on the disk, it does involve checking certain registry entries, looking at the contents of certain files, and checking for the presence of others for things that "look like" spyware.

  • Monitor: like anti-virus programs, anti-spyware programs often have a "real time" component that monitors for certain spyware-like activities. A good example is that an attempt to change your default home page will be caught (or prevented) in real time by many anti-spyware programs.

And once again, the bottom line is the same: periodic scans by different programs are quite alright, while the real time monitors installed by these utilities can easily come into conflict. Make sure only one package has its real time monitoring facility enabled.

The most important thing is to start with a good anti-spyware program, and make sure that its database of known spyware is continually being updated.

Firewalls

Firewalls are a different beast from the tools we've talked about so far. They fall into roughly two categories: hardware and software.

A software firewall is just that - software that's installed on your machine that prevents certain types of intrusion into your system from the outside and, in some cases, monitors for suspicious attempts to connect to the outside from within your computer. In both cases the functions are performed in real time, as they happen. As you can guess from the previous discussion about anti-spyware and anti-virus software, two programs trying to perform the same action at the same time can lead to problems. I would most certainly not run two different software firewalls at the same time. That implies that if Windows Firewall is turned on, I would turn it off as part of installing another firewall such as Zone Alarm.

Hardware firewalls are, in most homes and small businesses, routers. Routers provide a level of protection that prevents your computer from being seen from the internet, unless you initiate the outbound connection. There's nothing to install on your PC; it's just another box that sits between you and your internet connection.

There's nothing wrong with having both a software and a hardware firewall. It's partially redundant, but it's harmless. In fact, if there are machines within your LAN that you don't actually trust, having both can actually be an appropriate choice.

Technically, there's also really nothing wrong with having multiple hardware firewalls. You can put a router behind a router if you like. However, a) it will slow down your connectivity somewhat, and b) there are certain types of communications protocols that may break as a result. Common protocols like web and email do not, so it's usually OK, but it's not really recommended.

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This set me thinking ! I have been unable to install NAV for the last week, it keeps failing and asks me to start again, and keeps failing to install.
I notice now that Windows Firewall is " ON ", thats got me thinking -- thats good !! I will now have to learn how to uninstall Windows Firewall, etc. Thanks for the education.

Posted by: Vincent Mc Kenna at November 13, 2006 03:42 PM

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Posted by: J.G, Allinson at January 23, 2007 02:44 AM

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Posted by: omar at December 6, 2007 12:59 PM

I agree on the Firewall you can only run one firewall at at time. I use ZoneAlarm and it automatically turns off the XP firewall. As for AntiSpyware I have Windows Defender and SpywareDoctor running, and the PC does run a little slower, but the protection works. And for AntiVirus, on my new dual-core pc I have both AVG & Avast running with no problems. I chose AVG for the scheduler, and Avast for the boot-scan.

Posted by: dana Jones at February 14, 2008 03:59 PM

Well, I use F-Secure Internet Security full time now (anti-virus, anti-spyware, and firewall) all in one package, but when I installed it, I forgot to uninstall Avast A/V and ran into all kinds of problems, (freezes, crashes), but that all stopped when I got rid of (uninstalled) the Avast. F-Secure disabled my Windows Defender & Windows Firewall by default upon installation and so far, so good.

Posted by: zzuebe2 at June 16, 2008 12:12 PM

i have both windows defender on, and symantic anti virus both running, does this conflict with each other

Posted by: bill g mosley at August 8, 2008 01:33 PM

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