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Leo,

In some cases, ISP's tend to be a bit sloppy when assigning dynamic customer IP's. I have, on occasion, pinpointed someone's location within 4 or 5 city blocks... simply because the second last octet of their IP was "53" (for example)... and I've known that 53.x IP's serviced no other neighbourhood but.

You can also gain much greater accuracy, by going back through the hops, and looking up the location of whatever that particular user is connected to.

Now let's just say for example, that you've already determined that the user of that IP is a DSL-subscriber (easy thing to determine)... and you've pinpointed the exact location of their C/O... it's often a very safe bet, that the machine you are tracing, is located within 3.7 line-miles of that position.

It still may not put you on that person's doorstep, but it is indeed, a bit too close for comfort. With information as such, you may also be able to determine where that person is most likely to shop, go to school, buy their gas... etc.

Now, I'm not saying that it's always going to be so 'cut and dry' easy... but there are cases when IP tracing can get EXTREMELY close to home.

What else might the tracer know about you, that can help snap together the remainder of the puzzle? What information might your neighbours give up innocently, if the tracer casually walked down your street posing as an old friend?

It's indeed something to think about.

Those serviced by long-range wireless or satellite connections are probably about the safest surfers on the net (as far as IP tracing is concerned).

Posted by: Rick at March 17, 2007 1:42 PM

so tell me how can i stop a website from getting my ip when i log onto the site there must be some kinda scrambler or something ?

Posted by: SirStan at March 20, 2007 7:53 AM

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You'd use an anonymization service.
http://ask-leo.com/is_anonymous_web_surfing_possible_if_so_cant_the_bad_guys_use_it_too.html

Leo
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Posted by: Leo A. Notenboom at March 20, 2007 12:57 PM

It's fun or usefull when you track IP addresses, because you can make an idea about the person, country, maybe state, or if it is from an organization or big company. http://www.ipgp.net gives accurate information and map.

Posted by: Lucian at March 21, 2007 11:27 AM

how anyone can know the ip address of the other person he is chatting with over the yahoo messenger or on mail id? pls tell me this is highly required information.

Posted by: bindaasjhokra at April 8, 2007 9:27 AM

Recently my company emails were hacked into and a false and nasty message was sent to most of our clients. I have the IP from the email and want to trace it . I'm virtually certain we know who the offender is . How do i it ?

Posted by: joe murray at June 27, 2007 8:48 AM

how long does the IP provider keep information?

Posted by: curiousminds at July 1, 2007 10:20 AM

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No way to know. It depends on the ISP.

Leo


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Posted by: Leo A. Notenboom at July 1, 2007 10:04 PM

WHile it is possible to find an approximate location from an IP address in an email header, email originating from AOL accounts only seems to trace back as far as the AOL server.

Is there a way to find an approximate location of the specific computer used to send the mail?

Posted by: Curious at July 13, 2007 10:14 AM

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As stated in this and several articles on this site:

- - if you're an average user: no
- - if you're the ISP that owns the IP address: probably

So normal people typically need to get law enforcement involved and court
orders to trace an IP to a computer.

Leo


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Posted by: Leo A. Notenboom at July 13, 2007 2:07 PM
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