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Comment from Faris on 2009-10-14

2009-10-14T14:57:27Z

Dear Mr. Leo

i have problem to configure my network
i have a desktop with MSI motherboard have two ethernet with XP OS and i installed wireless card for my wirless enternet.

the wirless is ok with me and working fine, but i have issues when i want to connect my desktop with my brother desktop wire network.

i already configure the IP adress for both computers and it was connected but when i want to open the other computer to see the sharing files that i already shared it wont open and i noticed it use the wireless network for searching not the ethernet that i already connected it with the other computer.

but in the end it manage to open the other computer from the wirless network (the other desktop have also wireless) not from the wire network.

please help me in this i dont know what to do and i searched alot but unable to find a solution for this.

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Comment from Nick on 2009-10-01

2009-10-02T02:43:09Z

Ethan, for the second diagram to work, the second wireless access point must function as a repeater. So it must be able to function as a "client" and a "server" concurrently. Most wireless routers don't do that but there are wireless access points that have that functionalities. Linksys & Belkin calls them Range Extender and DLink calls the Repeaters but they refer to the same thing.

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Comment from Nick on 2009-10-01

2009-10-02T02:36:30Z

You can extend an unsecure wireless signal as long as it is on the same channel and use the same SSID. But that will still be leeching and is illegal in some countries.

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Comment from hecky on 2009-09-09

2009-09-09T07:41:56Z

hi
can i use a dlink range extender to boost an unsecure wireless signal that i pick up.
thanks

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Comment from Marcus on 2009-08-22

2009-08-22T20:41:16Z

Yes you can!!! Search for mesh networks and you will find how to do it!

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Comment from demetrice on 2009-07-20

2009-07-20T16:06:38Z

Hi Leo, I'm trying to setup a wireless connection in my home, is it possible I can use a accesspoint as my internet connection.I have wireness router and accesspoint connected on the same network.I wont to use my wireness modern to commicate with my wifi and I wont to connnect my desktop to my wireless moder using a ethernet cable.will this work

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Comment from Ticus on 2009-07-16

2009-07-17T04:38:27Z

Toyang:

I'm trying to do this. On this momment I have two 2.4ghz antennas looking to each other on a 900 feets distance. I had some problems with the routers I got (ALFA NETWORKS) I have to solve this problem until the weekend so you can email me next week and I'll tell you how I solved this configuration.

Its possible i connect internet & sharing network to my office and my house?
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Comment from Ethan Cunningham on 2009-06-08

2009-06-08T15:36:29Z

I'm trying to setup something like the second diagram in the article except by using wireless routers which cannot be wired together. My situation is kind of strange and I need to have my router provide a way for my two hardwired computers to access the internet. Any ideas on if this is possible and if so, how I'd set up my wireless router?

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Comment from Toyang on 2009-06-05

2009-06-05T10:28:27Z

Its possible i connect internet & sharing network to my office and my house?

this is the set up. My house near from my office its around 150 meters away i have a dsl in my office.but in my house i have no internet connection its possibly i connect using AP to AP connection? In my office i have 3 computers 1 router & 1 AP.In my house i have 16 port HUB & 1 AP 1 computer...pls help me... thanks

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Comment from Mike Maxson on 2009-04-22

2009-04-22T18:51:28Z

Similarly to David way back in December, I'm considering either having two access points or one access point and a repeater. If the coverage of the two signals intersect what kind of interference problems can occur? Could there be a problem with the requesting computer receiving the same packet multiple times?

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Comment from James H on 2009-04-12

2009-04-12T21:06:18Z

I have a D-Link Dir-625 connected to my modem on my top floor with the wireless network set up. I have a laptop 2 floors below running off the wifi. My question is I have 2 wired desktops in the basement next to the laptop. Is it possible to use my D-Link Di-524 and connect that to my laptop, therefore sharing the wireless connection from the laptop to the wired desktops through this router- I would like to do this rather than spend money on a dedicated wireless bridge, as the desktops are only on when the laptop is on.

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Comment from matt on 2009-03-29

2009-03-29T10:27:24Z

i use an engenius ap contected to my router to extend my wifi and until a few days ago it ran very well, but i am having problems staying connected now, the ap has the dhcp turned off as it gets this from my router is this the correct way to have it set up? my friend lives close by and uses my ap to go on the net she has an ethernet bridge set up to get onto my ap that has a fixed ip so she dosent use dhcp and she has no problems staying on line, can you please addvise me on the best settings to use, thank you.

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Comment from Omar on 2009-03-17

2009-03-17T23:29:05Z

Access Point could be used as a repeater to extend coverage of a WLAN. More APs could be added to the chain, as long as they are configured as repeaters apart from the root(first) AP.

So guys, Edy specifically. Dont panic, it is possible to use many APs to extend the coverage. According to Leo's theory, extending Wireless coverage with wire connected between APs doesnt really make sense to me.

Guys just search for how to configure them as repeaters and how far you need to put them apart.

hope this helps,
Omar.

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Comment from Rex on 2009-03-16

2009-03-16T12:44:01Z

Hi Leo
You say that using a WAP as an extender works when wired to a router adsl modem but maybe not wirelessly. Is this really impossible? I want to extend the wirless range of the router but wiring in the WAP next to it doesn't do that.
TIA Rex

Something called a "wireless repeater" may be able to.

- Leo
16-Mar-2009

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Comment from Nonya on 2009-03-15

2009-03-15T15:41:24Z

Great bit of advice, and I hadn't even thought about the negative translation effects. However I believe manufactures could design a router that allowed the router to logon to one network location, then you could setup a new LAN. In fact it probably wouldn't be that difficult. Not much of a demand though.

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Comment from LB on 2009-03-12

2009-03-13T03:17:21Z

Ivan

Could you provide info with how your direct tv setup is done? I'm hoping I can stay away from running cat cable.

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Comment from ivan on 2009-02-07

2009-02-08T03:40:29Z

This is completely wrong.
I have setup long distance wireless LANs using Linksys WAP54g access points.
I have a home office with cable internet and I had to tie in a trailer at a construction site about a block away. I used 2 Linksys WAP54Gs with External Hawking directional antennas. It worked perfectly for over a year until we moved the trailer. The key is to use the same brand/model at each end.

I've since used the same WAP54Gs at home as external wireless NICs for an old iMac that I didn't want to upgrade with an airport card. I'm now using the same WAP to connect my Direct TV HD Receiver to the wireless network to download my On demand movies. I can easily stick a switch on that end and add as many devices as I want.

It's do-able and easy. Leo, you should check your facts before publishing that this would 'probably' not work.

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Comment from David Pickrell on 2008-12-20

2008-12-20T13:57:37Z

I am trying to set up my network to equal the first diagram. Two wirelss access points connected to the same router. Can you tell me the specific settings for the two access points. Do the WAP have to use different SSID names, and broadcast on different channels. I sure these are all very basic questions.

Thanks

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Comment from steve on 2008-12-04

2008-12-04T20:29:19Z

Hi I have a laptop connected to my router with ethernet. can i use the laptop as a wireless access point. My router is also wirless but does not reach to where my wired laptop is.

hope you can understand what I am asking . thanks steve.

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Comment from edy on 2008-12-02

2008-12-02T13:02:32Z

hi leo,
i just wanna ask u something about my wireless access point.
here we have many access point but i have this big problem.
the A access point connect to B access point using transiver.
then i can ping both of access point.
but now problem is, when i connect to A access point i seen that cant ping the B access point.
when i connect using B access point i cant ping A access point.
u have any idea how to solved this problem??
thanks for ready my post.

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Comment from Jauris on 2008-10-25

2008-10-25T19:48:50Z

hello,i want to use a wireless router into my cable networking that i've installed.
i've made a connection like this:

Internet --> ASDL Modem --> 8 ports ethernet switch --> Wireless router --> Laptop

The problem is i can't connect to the internet via the wireless router.but i can connect via cable from the ethernet switch.
What's exactly the problem?
I've turned off DHCP and UPNP on the wireless router.also give a spesific ip address to it.
My default gateway is 192.168.1.1 and i give the wireless router 192.168.1.2
i've plug the ethernet cable from ethernet switch to ethernet port on the wireless router (not the Internet port).
is that correct?
or maybe i forget something important?

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Comment from Sandro Gatestein on 2008-10-18

2008-10-18T23:06:28Z

Hi Leo, I just upgraded my internet connection to a wireless one. I was talking to one of my neighbors and he said he was able to connect to my internet from his laptop but with not too much signal. He asked me if it was ok to connect to my internet if he bought a WAP for better signal. Can he do that just by buying an Access Point and plugging it in HIS house.

Than you,

Sandro

A plain WAP would need a cable back to your house. There are repeaters I think that he could use, or depending on the specific wireless card he has, he might be able to put a larger/stronger antenna on it.

- Leo
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Comment from Ray on 2008-08-27

2008-08-27T19:08:35Z

Well Guys. I have actually used two wireless routers without physically connecting them and extended the wireless range greatly.

I used a basic netgear router and then an old BT hub and it works great.

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Comment from cadett on 2008-07-17

2008-07-18T05:27:51Z

hey jack
please explain this step;-
4.Put first MAC address to the WDS onto the second and vice versa.
please indicate how to carry out that instructio

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Comment from cadett on 2008-07-17

2008-07-18T05:22:18Z

hey jack
can you post the exact sets you took to have the two wireless routrs to conect each wirelessy>
include ip addresses, for computers routers etc, also the features that eed to be turned on both routers

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Comment from ADIL HANIF on 2008-05-03

2008-05-03T10:49:20Z

Dear Experts,
I have two Networks one is on the 3rd floor of my office building & 2nd is on the 7th floor.

I've connected my 1st wirelss router with wireless LAN CARDS. Now i want to connect my another router which is on 8th floor.

I need you help that how do i connect my 2nd router ?

1. Through a Ethernet (Switch) to 2nd Router Ethernet port.

2. Any Other Suitable Way?

If 1st is ok then i've one more problem i want to assign Statically IP to my all Computers Adapter.

Please help me out from this problem.

& send me as soon as possible.

Thanks & Regards

ADIL HANIF

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Comment from Dane on 2008-03-07

2008-03-07T14:04:50Z

I am using my neigbors access point for my internet useing a usb wireless adapter and i would like to know if i can somehow hook up a router using a usb adapter without haveing a wired ethernet connection.What i am trying to do is hook up another computer in my home using a linskys wireless router which connects to my neigbors access point using a wirelless usb adater.

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Comment from Bernie on 2008-01-28

2008-01-29T01:32:30Z

My main network with an Actiontec router in the basement with 2 wired systems and a wireless Wii connection. I have some wireless dead spots in the house so I want to add my old Dlink DI-624 directly wired to the actiontec router, and use it as an access point in the attic to cover the whole house. I have all settings made and everything works fine. But before I turn on the wireless on the DI-624 My question is, can/should I use the same SSID and passkey for both? Will they "fight" if I am in range of both wifi's with a wireless laptop?

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Comment from jack on 2008-01-06

2008-01-07T01:06:37Z

Dear Adnan,

What is the 2nd wireless router/access point you bought? This is exactly what I need to do. I want to connect 3 devices in my basement using a 2nd wireless router/access point.

Thanks,
Jack
==your post===
I have managed to connect two routers/access points together wirlessly. What you need:

1.WDS option enabled
2.Turn off DHCP on the second router.
3.Give second router an IP address withing the range of first router.
4.Put first MAC address to the WDS onto the second and vice versa.
6. Use same Security on BOTH (keys/channel etc).
7. You can add more access points to it using the above.

P.S. Linksys WRT54 routers can be upgraded using non-linksys firmware to enable WDS.

Best regards
Adnan

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Comment from michael on 2007-11-13

2007-11-14T07:25:33Z

My setup is like top diagram except the present router at left side of diagram, in the library, is not wireless. To use a laptop in library it must be connected to router by ethernet cable.

The library, where the cable modem and router are located, is isolated from rest of house, and wireless signals do not penetrate the library walls.

The WAP at right side of diagram, connected by cat 5 cable is an 802.11b Orinoco RG-1000, with DHCP turned off to act as pass-through. That WAP has wirelessly served all of house except the library for years.

To carry a laptop in and out of library, I have to connect or disconnect ethernet cable, and reboot computer, to switch between ethernet connection (in library) and wireless connection (out of library).

I want to replace current non-wireless router in library with a wireless 'b/g' router. I want to connect the existing 'b' WAP to the new 'b/g' wireless router, just as it is currently connected to the non-wireless router, with cat 5 cable.

My hope is that I will then be able to seamlessly carry a laptop in and out of library, getting wireless signal inside the library (from new 'b/g' wireless router) and outside library (from existing cat 5 connected 'b' WAP).

Will this work?

Will I be able to carry a laptop in and out of library without losing signal?

Will the laptop switch back and forth between the 'b' and 'b/g' WAPS as I carry it in and out of library? Will laptop lose signal as it switches back and forth between 'b' WAP and 'b/g' WAP?

Will the laptop have good signal when it is in an area simultaneously covered by signal from both 'b' WAP and 'b/g' WAP, or will it get "confused?"

Should SSID and channels be set the same on both WAP's?

Please reply.

Thank you.

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Comment from Nafsun Wahirun on 2007-11-11

2007-11-12T04:18:24Z

This might help a little bit. I just sucessfully configured my wireless routers this morning, on my first attempt,thanks God. Here are what you should do,
1. Configure the first wireless router as it is supposed to be.
2. Connect the second wireless router via cable to computer, and enter its IP address to configure.Reset all settings to the original and set SSID and channel similar to the first router and lastly at LAN IP set IP to any valid range. In my case I set to 192.168.0.199 because the valid range for my first router was 192.168.0.100 thru 299. Dont forget to unchecked DHCP, save and turn off.
3. Pull your second router to your room and connect the other end of the cable to the first router. Power up and enjoy. I have excellent conncection

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Comment from Jesse on 2007-08-31

2007-09-01T05:39:17Z

I think all you guys need to do is get a wireless network extender. They will extend your network. Very easy to set up also.

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Comment from aaron on 2007-08-16

2007-08-17T00:22:27Z

Ok I have a netgear wireless router and a Linksys wireless access point router. The netgear router is upstairs and is connected to a cable modem. I want to be able to access the netgear router without hardwiring them together- to get on the internet from downstairs. Can I use my Linksys WAP router to work like a wireless network card? I have tried to access the network through the Linksys router connected to my laptop with an ethernet cable. But cannot seem to establish communication. Is it possible to do this? I have searched but not found a way. PLEASE HELP.

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Comment from Andtech on 2007-05-19

2007-05-19T12:13:53Z

I have an existing wireless network setup with my neightbours. This is configured as a bridge to bridge and the access point is on my side connected to my modem/rounter. My neighbours have purchased a second PC (Laptop) and want to tap into the network. How do I achieve this? At present sometimes the laptop taps in and someyimes it doesnt. I am under the impression it shouldnt be able to at all.....

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Comment from Adnan on 2007-05-14

2007-05-14T11:32:52Z

I have managed to connect two routers/access points together wirlessly. What you need:

P.S. Linksys WRT54 routers can be upgraded using non-linksys firmware to enable WDS.

Best regards
Adnan

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Comment from Robbie on 2007-04-18

2007-04-19T01:18:57Z

HI I have a router WRT54G upgraded firmware, downstairs, and I would like to extend the wireless range upstairs to third floor without them connected by wires. The Router has a DHCP enabled from 192.168.1.100 and upwards and has a static IP of 192.168.1.1. I have bought a wireless access point to go upstairs, I have set this up as a repeater which points to the routers wireless MAC address. Both have the same SSID, separate channels, same WPA encryption key. The AP has a static ip of 192.168.1.50 and gateway 192.168.1.1. I can't ping the access point from the router and for some reason I dont see the SSID of the access point.. and the range upstairs is still the same.I am really confused and would really like your help. Thank you

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Comment from zach on 2006-10-22

2006-10-22T19:05:53Z

I would not suggest doing that what i did was connect router a to my dsl modem and router b to router a with a network cable from upstairs to downstairs. What this will do is extend your wireless internet coverage and also give you 3 more wired ports to go to other pc's or what ever you want to use the other 3 ports for. If you wirelessly bridge your wireless network is 10 times slower. Its best to go wired on the routers and then wirelessly connect any laptops or pc's that you might want to hook up to the network.

Also getting two wrt54g routers is hughly reccomended. Then upgrading the routers firmware so you can get a broader wireless internet coverage on both routers. This firmware will boost the wireless signal 1500 feet or more.

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Comment from John on 2006-10-20

2006-10-20T11:52:35Z

In your second illistration you show the two wireless routers completely seperated.

I am wondering if it would be ok to have one wireless router connected wirelessly to PC A and from PC A also having a wired NIC card wired to another routher which would be wired to PC B, could this give the other PC a share of the Internet connection which is connected to the wireless router connected wirelessly to PC A??

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Comment from zach on 2006-10-14

2006-10-15T01:53:35Z

HAVING DIFFICULTY GETTING SIGNAL STRENGHTH TO GO UPSATIRS FROM THE DOWNSTAIRS ROUTER? GO AND PURCHASE TWO WRT54G ROUTERS AND THEN DOWNLOAD DD-WRT'S FIRMWARE FROM http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/down.php?path=downloads%2Fdd-wrt.v23%2Fmini/ AND UPGRADE BOTH ROUTERS WITH THE SAME FIRMWARE. JUST IN CASE YOU ALL DONT KNOW HOW TO UPGRADE THE FIRMWARE GO TO http://192.168.1.1 and then go to administration and then to firmware upgrade. Then browse for the .bin firmware file that you downloaded from ddwrt's site and there you go. JUST IN CASE YOUR WONDERING WHAT THIS FIRMWARE UPDATE DOES IT BOOST'S YOUR ROUTER'S WIRELESS SIGNAL FROM 350 FEET TO 1500 FEET POSSIBLY LONGER. ITS ALL FOR FREE THERE IS ALSO SO MANY OTHER FEATURES THAT IT HAS. I STRONGLY RECCOMMEND YOU GET THOSE TWO ROUTERS AND THE FIRMWARE UPGRADE. MORE QUESTIONS I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

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Comment from zach on 2006-10-14

2006-10-15T01:43:56Z

THERE IS ALSO A WAY TO BRIDGE TWO WIRELESS ROUTERS TOGATHER IF YOU WOULD RATHER NOT FOOL WITH A WIRE. FIRST YOU NAME ROUTER A AND THEN NAME ROUTER B THE SAME SSID NAME YOU NAMED ROUTER A ONCE THIS IS DONE YOU CONNECT ALL PC'S THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ON ROUTER B AND YOU SHOULD BE ON THE NET IN NO TIME.

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Comment from zach on 2006-10-14

2006-10-15T01:39:06Z

HOW YOU CONNECT TWO ROUTERS TOGATHER PEOPLE IS QUIET SIMPLE. DISABLE ROUTER B'S DHCP SERVER AND THEN RUN A STRAIGHT THROUGH ETHERNET CABLE OFF OF ONE OF THE LAN PORTS ON ROUTER A. THEN YOU CONNECT THE OTHER END TO THE WAN PORT OF ROUTER B. BINGO NOTE:ALSO MAKE SURE ON BOTH ROUTERS THAT THE IP RANGES ARE DIFFRENT.

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Comment from EJ on 2006-09-30

2006-09-30T11:19:49Z

link to use two WRT54GLs as a wireless bridge if anyone's interested:

http://thisisfanzoo.com/blog/archive/2005/02/12/488.aspx

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Comment from Juan on 2006-07-28

2006-07-28T19:34:01Z

To answer G's question. You need a crossover cable to connect the two routers.

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Comment from Tony on 2006-06-14

2006-06-14T15:54:48Z

To answer Rei's question. What you need is a AP thhat can act as an AP client. I have used the excellent Dlink 2100AP which you can connect to the end user machine using an ethernet and then set it as in AP client which in affect tells it to act as a wireless network card.It can also work as a repeater and connct to another AP to extend your network range which is what I am using it for

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Comment from rei on 2006-05-25

2006-05-25T08:28:29Z

Is there any access point made that can connect wirelessly direct to a wireless router, rather than to another access point? In other words, I want to plug a CAT-5 cable into a wireless device, and have that wireless device talk to my network as if it were a wireless card in a PC. The end-user machine in question is not a PC, so putting in a LAN card is not an option. I would like to avoid having 2 wireless AP's talking to each other. I want:
[wireless router] [ap] [end device]
not
[wireless router] [ap] [ap] [end device]
So, does any suitable AP exist for this purpose?

thanks and kind regards
rei

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Comment from Ketan Patel on 2006-03-24

2006-03-24T13:28:20Z

Hi,

Why bother using the wired cables to connect the access point. Use the wireless repeaters/extenders.

1. Netgear Wireless Access WG602 54 Mbps Wireless Access Point ($70)

2. D-LINK DWL-G710 WIRELESS RANGE EXTENDER ($99)

You can use either of them without having to connect the ethernet cable from your existing router or hub. It will solve problems of all of you guys.

Cheers,
Ketan

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Comment from jack on 2006-03-06

2006-03-06T20:25:36Z

rajat,

Did this work for you? I have exactly the same situation and would like to use your insight if it did. thanks.

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Comment from rajat on 2006-01-16

2006-01-16T09:22:16Z

well i got a situation here..

i got two Dlink DI-624 wireless routers.. Router A and Router B ..i have Router A connectected to the cable modem and everythings fine..now i want to connect Router B upstairs..where the signal strenght is not good..very low..( yah i know i could have got an AP only ..but forget it now ) ..so Router B goes upstairs....
now the problem is how do i connect these two.??!!

Router A has its base address as 192.168.0.1 and its DHCP range 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.50...
from whatever i have read in the net..my understanding goes like this...

1) login to the Router B and disable the DHCP server it in .. ( so far so good )
2) remove the default 192.168.0.1 IP of the Router B and give it another IP within the same subnet of Router A ( for eg. 192.168.0.99)
3) leave the WAN port of Router B as it is ..
4) connect any one of the LAN ports of Router A to one of the LAN ports of Router B .. with a ...HERES MY BIG CONFUSION..DO I USE A STRAIGHT CABLE OR A CROSS CABLE ???? ( i was gng to use cross )
5) the SSID of both the routers should be same.. BUT the channel should be different ( channel 1 in A and channel 6 in B) OR SHOULD THE CHANNELS BE SAME TOO ??!!!

heres my confusion ...

1) should the base address of Router B ( 192.168.0.99) should be in the range within that of Router A ( 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.50) ?? or start from 0.51 only

2) when the wireless PC connects through Router B ..what should be the default gateway of the PC ?? 192.168.0.1 ( base address of Router A ) ??

should i be able to use the Internet and the LAN from the wireless PC via Router B now ???

thanks in advance ...

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Comment from G on 2005-12-31

2005-12-31T20:21:12Z

Dear people,
I have two enterprise level wireless bridges Master and Slave to connect two LAN segments. The distance between two wireless bridges are 800ft. Both the bridges are connected to high gain antennas. The problem is it works for a while and automatically gets disconnected. But after doing a powercycle it comes back up. I have tried upgrading firmware too but problem still persists.

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G

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Comment from JIDE OLAYIWOLA on 2005-12-28

2005-12-29T07:22:45Z

hi.
I have a problem with connecting two dlink wireless access points. I have tried using one as a repeater and other alternatives yet i couldn't get a solution to it. I want someone to put me through the steps involved. Also how can i make the two wireless access points to communicate with each other.

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Comment from Leo on 2005-12-15

2005-12-16T05:37:11Z

Duncan: you really want the VOIP equipment to be as close to the source of your internet as possible. So wired, and probably right off of your broadband connection.

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Comment from Leo on 2005-12-15

2005-12-16T04:14:15Z

Amer: some AP's can be configured to act as a repeater or wireless bridge, but it's fairly rare.

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Comment from duncan on 2005-12-11

2005-12-12T04:41:41Z

Hi
Im adding a voip phone to my system. However Im not hardwires via ethernet. My wirless signal is good. My question is whenther Im able to plug my voip to my unused ethernet card? And feed my voip hardware from my wireless router.
Thanks

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Comment from Amer Butt on 2005-12-02

2005-12-02T14:00:13Z

With regard to the second diagram. You say that "this will probably not work. Access Points typically do not communicate with each other."

This seems to imply that it is possible?

Under what circumstances will this work. It would save me a lot of work if this can be achieved.

Regards

Amer

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Comment from Den on 2005-08-20

2005-08-20T19:35:43Z

try http://www.microsoft.com/athome/moredone/wirelesstips.mspx

using wirless repeater may solve your problem to extend your wirless connection

http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/prices.aspx?itemId=902738

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Comment from Muhammad Afzal on 2005-08-08

2005-08-08T13:02:18Z

Dear sir,
i am from a multinational comapny..and iam from IT department, actually i am locking for wireless access point and Wireless LAN at wide area range.so please send me info about my reauarement thanks
Afzal Bhutto
IT Department

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Comment from Leo on 2005-06-13

2005-06-14T04:18:04Z

Alex: You should be able to add the accesspoint to your setup, yes. Because it's also a router, make sure to turn off DHCP on it ... the router connected to your DSL modem will provide that.

You should also be able to connect the hub as you described.

All sounds good.

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Comment from Greg Beals on 2005-06-13

2005-06-13T23:13:57Z

I have a issue... I have a laptop that has wireless g & B.. My home has a G access point and my office has a B access point. I installed everything and worked fine at the office. Connected to B just fine. I then went home, installed the new software and connected to G just fine. Now when I go back to the office I cannot find the B access point. Is there any way to get my laptop to work with both B & G upon transferring my laptop from home and work?

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Comment from Alex on 2005-06-13

2005-06-13T19:46:12Z

I have a home network with a DSL modem feeding directly into a wireless router with 4 ports in the basement. Connected to this router via Cat5 cable are four computers, one of which is on the second floor. My kids are getting older and will soon need their own computers on the second floor (which is not within wireless range of the router in the basement). I have a second wireless router in hand and was wondering if I could use this as an access point/hub for the second floor so that any new computers could access the network/internet via a wireless connection?

I have also noticed that if I connect a hub to the wireless router in the basement, I lose port #1 on the router. So, if I can do the above, can I plug a hub (which I have) into one port of my basement router and from this connect my hardwired computers as well as the cable feeding the wireless router on the second floor?

I think I've tried to make this simple problem as complex as possible, but I would like to see if I can use equipment I have in hand to save $$$.

Thanks!

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Comment from Leo on 2005-06-10

2005-06-10T18:50:47Z

Yep. That's the first diagram in the article.

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Comment from bsherlock on 2005-06-10

2005-06-10T13:09:05Z

My company is trying to make me set up a WLAN so that 2 DWL-AP2000+ wireless routers are basically sending the exact same signal, the intention is that somebody connecting on a laptop can simply walk from one room to another, and seamlessly pick up the signal from the 2nd router. Is this possible?

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Comment from Leo on 2005-05-30

2005-05-30T19:48:40Z

My initial reaction is that the buildings are too far apart for standard wireless to work to get the connectivity to each building. There are wireless solutions for the situation you describe, but they're not as simple as just setting up an access point. If possible, I'll seriously look into a wired solution to get the network to each building. Then, within each building wireless sounds great, but the number of access points will depend on the size of the building and any other radio interference.

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Comment from Maryam on 2005-05-30

2005-05-30T09:20:27Z

Thank you for your very good site. your site is so helpful.
I have an question,we have a Ethernet lan Cat5e in a building with 2 switche D-Link 10/100 and a File Server and a Internet Server.
We want to connect this Lan to 4 bulding that is 850m further. If the main Building is A, other bulding are B,C,D,E. The distance between this bulding is : A->B=580m, A->C=700m, A->D=835, A->E=840m, B->D=270m, B->E=280m, D->E=195m, E->C=150m. They are in direct vision.
We want to use wireless lan card for computers that are in 4 building and connect them to main Lan.
we want to use 2 access point for each bulding. one access point inside a building and one access point on the Antenna (for 4 building)and one access point for the main Lan for connect to the switch.
In alll of 4 Buildings we have Maximum 20 computers.
Is it a true plan? Would you please help me? Should you suggest the better map? Do 2 access point need for every building?

Thabnks alot

your sincerely,

Maryam

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Comment from Ben on 2005-03-31

2005-03-31T21:23:28Z

Hi guys hoping some one can help,

can i plug my *computer that only has a network card (NOT WIRELESS) into a wireless access point via Ethernet, then also have a wireless access point connected to the 4th port of my router and gain access to the network wirelessly?

I know it would be much simpler obviously to use a wireless PCA card, but , infact no BIG BUT, i am actually using a hi-tech Web cam with built in server, so the web cam has an ip its self, want to plug that into wireless access point and other wireless access point into my non wireless router, but i cant get the ips right

What if my cams local ip ends in 0.13
My routers local ip ends in .10
Wireless access point connected to router?
wireless access point connected to cam?
Gateway for both access points?

Hoping some one can help and I hope I haven’t made it sound to complicated

any help would be much appreciated.

Ben

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Comment from Paul on 2005-03-22

2005-03-22T12:05:55Z

Hi,

I’ve got a scenario that is causing me to loose my hair! I have two Wireless access points connected to 1 switch.
1.5 Kilometers away, i have another building that has got two clients.

I’m using 24db grid antennas and my signal strength is about 80%. I’ve set 1 access point with a SSID of Test1 and the 1 client with SSID Test1. The other access point has an SSID of Test2 and the other client Test2. The two clients are also connected to 1 switch. The reason why I have 4 wireless links even though I know 2 would do the job is because i need to implement redundancy. If Test1 goes down then Test2 needs to take over and vice versa.

I can get all four network links up but as soon as I start pinging the access points from the clients I get nothing! The link then drops. I seem to be getting a loop back from the access points.

Could this be because I have two access points with the same subnet on the same network and the packet doesn’t know which path to take? Or is it something else?

Regards

Paul

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Comment from adrizal on 2005-02-23

2005-02-23T15:28:06Z

Hi,

I have got some questions.

I want to setup WLAN. Do WAPs have limitations on how many client PCs should be connecting to them over an Ethernet. If they do, how Pcs per a WAP?

I recently implemented in-door WLAN and I had arround 660 pcs to be connected however the whole setup failed. The PCs were intermittently connected to the WAPs. All WAPs had the same SSID. The WAPs were first on roaming then I had to switch to dedicated.
Does it mean I didn't have enough WAPs to cover the whole PCs or the WAPs deployed were just too many? (FYI, I had taken into consideration the channeling method)

WAPs used Dlik 2000AP+ (G) and Lynksys (can't remember the model but it was B version)

Adaptors used Dlink PCI Aiplus G, D-link PCI B and Lynksys WUSB B

Appreciate you could assist me on this.

cheers

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Comment from Armin on 2005-02-10

2005-02-11T05:20:30Z

Use a Belkin 54 G bridge and range extender, works great.

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Comment from Jeff on 2005-02-08

2005-02-08T09:19:27Z

Coming back to original diagrams. In the second situation yes is difficult if not impossible with some hardware to span a network with two access points. But replacing the 2nd wireless access point with a wireless bridge the network can span to both sides and provide WAN access to all clients.

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Comment from Jay on 2004-11-10

2004-11-11T04:45:38Z

The comments above are largely on-target, but I thought I might be able to add a bit.

I've got two wireless access points connected together to extend my network. One key is to connect the two together with a crossover ethernet cable, from one of the 4 ports on the first to one of the 4 ports on the second; ignore the WAN port on the second one - no connection should be made there.

Other key points are that the ssid should be the same on both access points; set one access point to channel 1, the other to channel 6; set WEP configurations identically; and, turn off the DHCP server function on the second access point.

Check out this link for additional pointers:
http://www.tomsnetworking.com/FAQ-38-Setup+and+Configuration-16.php#186

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Comment from Leo on 2004-10-31

2004-10-31T15:55:55Z

Wireless routers are access points.

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Comment from Dith on 2004-10-31

2004-10-31T07:33:12Z

I have D-link DI-624 wireless router, can I use it as an access point or Wire less Adapter?

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Comment from Sam on 2004-10-25

2004-10-26T05:22:11Z

I am trying to do the second diagram with a MS MN-500 as the remote WAP. In the documentation it says this is possible "Adding to existing wireless networks" and that to put it into bridging mode. I haven't been able to get it to work though.

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Comment from Nick Howell on 2004-10-09

2004-10-10T00:35:18Z

I've got two wireless routers hooked up with a 50 ft. ethernet cable. The first router has one of it's LAN ports hooked up to the second one's WAN port, and the first one's WAN port is hooked up to a modem. The second one has DHCP disabled, and wireless enabled. My wireless computers seem to refuse to grab an IP address from either router, although either router hands out IP addresses just fine over ethernet.

Any ideas? If it helps, router 1 is a D-Link DI-624 at 192.168.2.1 (assigning between 192.168.2.3 and 192.168.2.99) and router 2 is a Microsoft MN-500 at 192.168.2.2, although it seems to like taking an IP dynamically from the first router.

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Comment from Leo on 2004-10-08

2004-10-09T01:43:57Z

I don't see how a bridge helps this situation.

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Comment from Mike on 2004-10-06

2004-10-06T19:31:31Z

On the second diagram, couldn't you just use a bridge instead of the access point on the one that is connected to the ethernet?

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Comment from Leo on 2004-10-06

2004-10-06T16:29:23Z

The WAN port is the uplink port. (Same beast, different name.) Turning DHCP off means turning it off on the (2nd) router - routers provide DHCP, and you only want one of the two routers providing it ... the one connected to the internet.

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Comment from Doug Reynolds on 2004-10-06

2004-10-06T15:20:14Z

Also both routers have wireless capability too if that could contribute, although we did try a hardwire only router for number 2 and no difference.

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Comment from Doug Reynolds on 2004-10-06

2004-10-06T15:17:53Z

Thanks, but I cannot find any mention of an "uplink" port in the router literature, only have WAN and ports 1-4, and is turning the DHCP off the same as turning it off on the computers? (One is a PC one is a Mac)

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Comment from Leo on 2004-10-05

2004-10-05T18:31:02Z

50ft seems fine. I have longer here at home. I'd make sure it's the "uplink" port on the second router that's being connected to the first, and that you have DHCP turned off on that one. Basically it needs to act as a fairly simple hub or switch only.

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Comment from Doug Reynolds on 2004-10-04

2004-10-04T15:04:13Z

I have the exact setup as in the top diagram: two groups of computers each connected to a router, the routers wired together, one router connected to cable modem/internet. My problem is that the computers on the router NOT connected to the internet drop their internet connection constantly... on 10 mins. off 2, etc., regardless of whether the other group is being used or are even turned on. I have a 50 foot ethernet cable just plugged into a port on each router, do I need some sort of signal boost or ???

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Comment from Anton on 2004-07-16

2004-07-17T06:26:49Z

Hi!
There actually are special access points that do this by talking to each other on a different frequency, thus creating a kind of wireless "backbone" between the access points. But those are professional, and more expensive than the SOHO type.
Regards,
Anton

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