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Comment from tarig on 2011-05-08

2011-05-08T17:30:11Z

how can i view character set on massage to change language

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Comment from TJ on 2010-12-08

2010-12-08T20:36:59Z

By the email header is possible to get to the user agent string of the sender?
I mean, by any chance, the recipient can in some way to get to know info. about the browser, OS, Gecko from the sender?
I need to know that.
Please, repli this message with a simple and short answer. Thanks!

No.

09-Dec-2010

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Comment from prakash on 2010-10-25

2010-10-26T05:27:29Z

when clicked on view message source, it is opening new tab, which is showing a junk characters which is not readable, please help me in this regard

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Comment from Selina on 2010-09-07

2010-09-08T01:57:35Z

I came acroos this advice on another forum regarding viewing headers in Hotmail and this is what the poster recommended:

Windows Live headers - a workaround.
"Ok, so we all know how hard it's been to get headers off an email if you have Windows Live lately. I've come up with a handy little workaround to let everyone see the headers. It's so simple I don't know why we didn't think of it before. All you do is get Mozilla Thunderbird to open it. Here's how you set it up.

Open up TB, click on Tools, then Account Settings. A new window pops up.
Bottom left hand corner, you see Account Actions. Click it and then click on Add Mail Account.
Put in yout name, email address and the email password, then click on Continue.
Click on Create Account.
Now you can download emails sent to the Windows Live account.

To find the headers, open your email, hold down the Ctrl key and (while still holding it down) press U. Up pops a window with the headers."

You dont have to do the above step if TB vesion is 3.1.2. Just look for the other actions the the top right hand corner of the e-mail message and click on that and then View source.

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Comment from Noel on 2010-09-05

2010-09-05T18:38:19Z

mainensign posted workarounds for the fault with View Message Source
here.

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Comment from Ian on 2010-09-05

2010-09-05T12:06:59Z

Actually this is not 'full' header, just a simplified one, when in fact hotmail used to be able to show the full header.

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Comment from sara on 2010-09-04

2010-09-04T12:29:23Z

Hi I have found it impossible to access the message source in the new hotmail - I think tthat this is a major problem - in google chrome it is just a load of symbols in ie8 64 bit and 32 bit I get an error message that it unable to download .... I think that the new hotmail was rushed out with htese bugs

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Comment from David on 2010-08-24

2010-08-24T07:39:47Z

Look at your screen grab. The "Actions menu link" is on the right, not the left.

D'oh! Fixed. Thanks.

26-Aug-2010

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Comment from srinivas on 2010-08-22

2010-08-22T22:07:48Z

I too did not see 'actions' link. Click on the triangle next to 'reply' as pointed out by Leo. Then click on 'view message source' for headers.

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Comment from Grant on 2010-08-22

2010-08-22T16:40:57Z

Same problem here. Junk characters if I use Firefox 3.6.8, "IE is unable to open" in IE8, junk characters in Chrome 5.0. All on XP SP3.

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Comment from krista on 2010-08-16

2010-08-16T17:31:36Z

i dont even have an actions mine just says reply whats goin on?

Pretend "Reply" is "Actions" and click on the little triangle next to it - you'll see a popdown menu just as shown above.

17-Aug-2010

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Comment from Vera on 2010-08-16

2010-08-16T14:10:03Z

It's clearly the latest (August 2010 in the UK)updated hotmail/livemail that's the cause of the problem. No problem getting the headers when it's in the fully installed version of livemail, but from a browser no way! Can confirm you only get symbols through Firefox and the message quoted above through IE.
I messaged livemail thro the feedback link but I reckon everyone who hits this problem needs to message them too!
And "Leo" - if you can solve it we'll all be very grateful ...

I see the message source properly using Firefox. No idea what's going on yet.

16-Aug-2010

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Comment from Mike Carter on 2010-08-14

2010-08-14T14:08:01Z

Right the only way to view messager source is now to download windows live mail.

You cannot view message source from your browser, whatever it may be. I do not think Leo explains this very well, indeed at all, all the screen shots he shows are taken from Windows Live Mail and not from a web browser...

You are incorrect. The screen shots are from Windows Live Hotmail as viewed in FireFox, a web browser.

14-Aug-2010

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Comment from lizzy on 2010-08-13

2010-08-13T09:14:29Z

i already do the step, but the view message source showed me a bunch of symbols and characters.

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Comment from redman on 2010-08-12

2010-08-12T19:33:24Z

Same problem as Vera! It just will not show me the source of some threanening emails my daughter has received!
The only way you can go through the steps above is by using Firefox, but that just gives you a bunch of symbols and characters!
Does anyone has a solution to this problem?

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Comment from Vera on 2010-08-11

2010-08-11T09:34:10Z

My problem is that hotmail refuses to open source for view full headers. All I'm getting is message: "Unable to download GetMessageSource.aspx from by 156wbay156.mail.live.com Unable to open this internet site. The requested site is either unavailable or cannot be found. Please try again later." And yes, I've tried again later and days later...
Like others I use full headers to check out mail - any advice out there?
CWH803 if you put junk mail into inbox can you view source?

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Comment from pinweed on 2010-08-10

2010-08-11T01:22:13Z

First "action" is on the right. Second in my Hotmail that is called "reply", but it then has the same actions as you display.

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Comment from CWH803 on 2010-08-10

2010-08-10T21:18:50Z

I would agree with cckozie that having to "Open" a message in order to see the source seems less secure. In addition, no method is now available to view the source of a message in the Junk folder; exactly where I would normally want to do so. Bah!

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Comment from Jet on 2010-08-10

2010-08-10T17:09:41Z

It is very surprising that so far only Alan ( comment dated 7 August 2010 ) has highlighted the unreadable characters and symbols while viewing the message source. Even Google does not show any results for his/our problem.
So, I am happy that I am not the only one ( besides Alan ) who seems to belong to another planet.
Would appreciate if some experts could solve this puzzle of unreadable characters and funny symbols appearing in our message source instead of the boring but useful plain text.

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Comment from Thrifty Beatnik on 2010-08-10

2010-08-10T11:01:33Z

I'm trying to get the message source to pop up but on the new hotmail it comes out garbled. Have a bit of a tedious ebayer I need to prove is scamming us so headers and footers are essential. Bah!

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Comment from Alan on 2010-08-07

2010-08-07T23:34:14Z

when I view message source all i see are symbols like the one below why is that can anyone help me please
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Comment from bobby on 2010-08-05

2010-08-05T23:36:58Z

When I click on action > view message source, then all I get is a bunch or garbage characters. Is there way of view this correctly. Ive tried a few browsers.

I'd have to see the "garbage". Many emails are encoded in such a way that the source may well look like garbage to most.

07-Aug-2010

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Comment from cckozie on 2010-08-05

2010-08-05T15:51:35Z

Prior to the last update I could view the source without opening the email. Now I have to open it to get the Actions dropdown list. Big move in the wrong direction in my view!

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Comment from Igu on 2010-08-04

2010-08-04T07:55:56Z

@Lee..open the message and just below the time stamp of the message you will see "actions" So this is listed within the field of the message itself on the right side.

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Comment from Igu on 2010-08-04

2010-08-04T07:54:28Z

I have the same issue. With outlook it will try to download the header which will not work.
When using Safari I can see the header but in unreadable text. Which isn't very helpfull at all as you can understand. Any new thoughts on how to get this text visible in readable text ??

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Comment from lee schipper on 2010-08-03

2010-08-04T03:43:46Z

I must be on the wrong planet. I have no "actions" in the upper right of my screen. Everything on my screen is listed above!
Wierd?

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Comment from Anon. on 2010-08-03

2010-08-03T10:44:56Z

the feature has been suppressed.

the new version of Windows Live will only show an unreadable paragraph as the email's source.

in order to view this: open an email - find 'Actions' at the top-right - click on 'View Source' - voil�...?

The feature has not been "surpressed". When I choose "View Message Source" under Actions I get ... the message source. Perhaps the body of the message is encoded in a way that looks like unreadble text, but that would, indeed, be the actual message source.

03-Aug-2010

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Comment from lee schipper on 2010-07-31

2010-08-01T04:07:37Z

Appreciate Arash' comments, but I do NOT see the same screen at all. Until a few weeks ago I DID see that screen and get the same results when I right-clicked. now just
Mark as Unread
Delete
Junk
Move
and then
For this sender
under which there are four irrelevant options.

BELOW IS A CLUMSY SCREEN PRINT OF WHAT I SEE
thanks

* Sign in to Messenger
*
* More themes
* Account
* Options

* Sign in to Messenger

* Pop out Messenger

* Messenger isn't available now.

* Reconnecting in {0}:{1}...

* Loading...

* Available
* Busy
* Away
* Appear offline
* Sign out of Messenger

profile | sign out
Hotmail

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Inbox (0)
More actions for inbox

Show/hide foldersShow/hide foldersFolders
More actions for folders

* Junk ()
* Drafts ()
* Sent ()
* Deleted ()
* isp contacts (2)
* Nigerians (3)
* spoof-phish ()
* New folder

Show/hide quick viewsShow/hide quick viewsQuick views

* Flagged ()
* Photos ()
* Office docs ()
* Shipping updates ()

Show/hide messengerShow/hide messengerMessenger
More Messenger actions

*
Sign in to Messenger
*
Close
* Invitations
*
*
o Show all
o

* Home
* Contacts
* Calendar

o New
o |
o Reply
o Reply all
o Forward
o |
o Delete
o Junk
o Not junk
o Sweep ?
+ Move all from...
+ Delete all from...
+ Mark this folder as read
+ Empty this folder
o Mark as ?
+ Unread
+ Read
+ Flagged
+ Unflagged
+ Phishing scam
o Move to ?
+
Inbox
+
Junk
+
Drafts
+
Sent
+
Deleted
+
isp contacts
+
Nigerians
+
spoof-phish
o Empty
o |
o Print
o [Refresh]
o Help ?
+ Help
+ Support
+ Service status
+ Feedback
+ Getting started
o
o Options ?
+ Reading pane settings
+ Off
+ Right
+ Bottom
+ More options...

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Clean out your inbox
We've added new ways to help you get organized, like a "sweep" menu to sweep away unwanted messages, and Microsoft SmartScreen technology to keep junk mail out. Learn more
Show advanced search
Search e-mail

* Search e-mail
* Search the web

Inbox

* Arrange by Date ?
o DateReverse the message sort order
o FromReverse the message sort order
o SubjectReverse the message sort order
o SizeReverse the message sort order
o ConversationReverse the message sort order
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* View:All|Unread|From contacts|Social updates|From groups|Everything else��

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Comment from lee schipper on 2010-07-31

2010-07-31T17:22:06Z

I can't get "full version mode". Right hand click gives me only options for sending etc. The email is a Nigerian 419 I would like to send to the ISP to get the crook cut off.
lee

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Comment from star234 on 2010-06-19

2010-06-19T12:50:04Z

Here are step by step instructions on how to find the senders IP and email address details in Hotmail. This works!

http://www.tothepc.com/archives/view-full-email-header-in-windows-live-hotmail/

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Comment from Arash on 2010-05-18

2010-05-18T17:40:10Z

I am in Windows Live Hotmail.

Right clicking on a message and selecting "View Source" results in opening a new tab in my browser with a blank page. Happens in both IE 8 and FF 3.6

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Comment from Wayne Meyers on 2010-04-25

2010-04-25T18:05:06Z

I just tried finding the header. This seems to be the complete header. First: right click, then hit "View Source" and after it opens right click one more time and hit "View Source" again and I believe from comparing you have the full header. Wasn't easy but, I found it! I have someone verifying this for me I will be more than to confirm his results. For he investigates web fraud for me and needs the headers to verify certain e-mails.

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Comment from Bob on 2009-12-24

2009-12-24T16:01:47Z

To view Headers in Windows Live Mail/Hotmail---
Right click the message in Inbox list, click "properties" then "Details". Complete source details revealed. Easy!

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Comment from ivo on 2009-10-15

2009-10-15T10:41:32Z

for full headers go to inbox, right click on the message you want to see (without going into it) and press "view message source"

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Comment from Lily on 2009-08-23

2009-08-23T20:59:39Z

Hi, it works inasmuch as I can see the headers, but it doesn't seem to be the complete headers. I report spam through my SpamCop account and since I've stopped having my Hotmail drop into my Outlook, I can no longer do this because I can't get hold of the full headers to report it. If I copy the header as shown and paste it into the SpamCop report window, I get a message saying:
No source IP address found, cannot proceed.
and
Probably not full headers
no header

which is a real bummer as spam reporting is important. Hopefuly Hotmail will fix it so the complete headers are available, or if anyone knows how to view the source IP address (vital in spam reporting), then please share it! Cheers.

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Comment from kat on 2009-05-04

2009-05-04T09:35:54Z

Just what I was looking for. The 'Help' they offer mentions absolutely nothing.

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Comment from Marina on 2009-03-07

2009-03-07T11:37:36Z

Okay so I find the HEADER "BUT" now I need to send it to ebay how do I do that?? Please help

You should be able to select it with the mouse, copy it, and then paste it into a new email message.

- Leo
07-Mar-2009

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Comment from Nerd on 2009-02-19

2009-02-19T10:33:38Z

Thanks a lot Mohammad, I've been searching the whole net for this!
Changing from the Classic version to the Full version wasnt possible anymore, because both versions have merged!
Good luck to everyone

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Comment from Mohammad Wasim Cheema on 2008-12-12

2008-12-12T20:20:47Z

Hello Every One;

I have finally found the way to get full header of the Hotmail Live email. Just Open Inbox then right click any email (without opening it) and then click "View Message Source" This will open Full header in another window. That's it. Try this one and enjoy......

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Comment from Carl on 2008-11-18

2008-11-18T18:23:40Z

You are a life saver. I have been searching for ages for this option in the new windows live hotmail.

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Comment from S Rao on 2008-10-28

2008-10-28T13:14:27Z

@Shailen Sobhee,

The topic here is Hotmail, not Gmail. Many people already forward the Hotmail to Gmail and check the full header.

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Comment from Shailen Sobhee on 2008-10-01

2008-10-01T08:36:29Z

Use Gmail > Near button Reply, click on the drop down arrow, and choose Show Original.

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Comment from thinkingal on 2008-09-19

2008-09-20T06:02:01Z

I apologize - my instructions are for when you have switched to Windows Live from Outlook Express (you are using Windows Live as your Email client). Right click on the unopened email, properties, details.

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Comment from thinkingal on 2008-09-19

2008-09-20T05:56:54Z

http://www.scribd.com/doc/397527/How-To-Extract-Email-Headers-Step-by-Step

Excellent site also to help you along the way with finding headers.

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Comment from thinkingal on 2008-09-19

2008-09-20T05:51:02Z

Scams - Let's fight the good fight. Okay everybody. Here's how you do it.
In your first menu listing your email, right click the message you are interested. Click "Properties". Choose "Details". Voila. Copy the whole shebang, and forward it to your favorite abuse gathering email provider, and get them to "deal with it". It's time to put these guys in jail.

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Comment from Marcella on 2008-08-23

2008-08-24T01:04:17Z

I switched to the full version from classic. I open the message and right click and choose view source but then nothing shows the header. What now?

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Comment from ~Niebr~ on 2008-07-08

2008-07-08T20:26:54Z

thank you so much! i have been trying to find out how to do this for the longest time!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!

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Comment from S Rao on 2008-04-06

2008-04-06T09:23:01Z

Hi everyone,

There are quite many frustrating things that Hotmail IS forcing on users and they don't seem to listen at all to any feedback. One frustrating thing is with the feedback itself...it opens in the same window and after submission there is no way to get back to the page you were on! Another is the suddenly appearing ads "distended over the message pane in a U shape" and it doesn't go away easily, as well as, doesn't allow message options to be clicked. Yet another - if we delete a message that is being viewed, the view passes on to the older message of the folder rather than returning to the folder. (Note: these observations apply to the Classic Windows Live Hotmail). Well, these are just a few frustrating things but I continue to use hotmail because of the one thing that no one else gives - FREE SMS alerts on Mobile phone. I even forward my own domain email to hotmail for this feature!

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Comment from John on 2008-02-21

2008-02-21T11:24:43Z

I've been fighting with this too. Sorted today thanks to above posts. Clicked "options" at the top right of the hotmail window. Says your using the classic version, try the full version. Clicked that. In the list of emails in the inbox, right clicked on any one email; then clicked "view source" in the srop down menu that appeared,and the full header came up in a new window.

(If you want to get back to "classic" you have to select "more option" in the options list in "full" - to get that choice)

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Comment from jim devine on 2008-02-09

2008-02-09T18:01:59Z

Same problem as Paul. Right click and view source but just sits there on blank screen. I see many people having this same problem and no answers anywhere on the net.

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Comment from William B Friedman on 2008-01-24

2008-01-24T16:38:08Z

I don't have the full version of Hotmail Live. When I right click on the e-mail in my inbox, I get only options about links.
I'll try the full version, tho I usually avoid 'improvements' as they usually end up making things worse!

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Comment from Paul on 2008-01-09

2008-01-09T18:20:06Z

I've tried to do this a dozen times (full windows live hotmail version) but all that happens is a window opens up and the little "timer" cursor spins and spins and spins... The progress bar at the bottom never gets more than half way across. Any suggestions?

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Comment from Roberto on 2007-12-11

2007-12-11T22:04:42Z

I did not complete the instructions sorry, so this is part 2.

In the Inbox list, right click on the email in question and choose "View Source".

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Comment from Roberto on 2007-12-11

2007-12-11T21:14:47Z

I was having the same frustration as all of you while using Windows Live Hotmail, but noticed there was a switch to full version of Windows Live Hotmail. Viola! There it is, the show full headers in the Outlook style inbox.
To switch between the two version of Windows Live Hotmail, go to your inbox and scroll to the bottom of the webpage, you will see a message

"Want to race through your inbox even faster? Try the full version of Windows Live Hotmail...".

If you are in the full version it will say "Switch to Classic"

Cheers

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Comment from Erich on 2007-12-04

2007-12-04T16:35:04Z

I assume i have the classic version how do i get the full so i can "view source"?

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Comment from joe on 2007-12-01

2007-12-01T20:05:36Z

people are getting confused with the page front end markup (view source).. instead dont open the email and view source but instead right click on the email in your inbox, thats what your supposed to do... i can see why people are getting confused..

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Comment from Dave on 2007-11-20

2007-11-21T01:10:50Z

@ Kirsteen, see my post directly above yours, basically, if you are reading your emails using the *classic version* of Windows Live Hotmail, you will not be able to get the headers by right clicking, it does not work on the classic version.

You must switch to *Full version* of Windows Hotmail Live, then you will be able to right click on the selected message and select *view source* to read the IP address of the sender.

I have tried it and it does work, the headers open in a new window after clicking view source.

Cheers,

Dave.

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Comment from Kirsteen on 2007-11-20

2007-11-20T13:35:05Z

I have exactly the same problem and all i can find are the same tips to view the source and the darn IP IS JUST NOT IN THERE!!!!

soo frustrating. anyone figures it out please tell me.

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Comment from Dave on 2007-11-14

2007-11-15T03:03:53Z

I was also having the problem of not being able to see headers in Windows Live Hotmail, then I found the post below, it seems you can right click and view source, but you have to be using the "full" version of Windows Live Hotmail, not the "classic" version, here is the post I found:

"Displaying Headers in Windows Live Hotmail

If you are reading in Classic, you must switch to Full, right click on the message header and select "view source" to read the IP address of the sender.

Took me many days to find that.
Is not available in Classic and the Live "help" does not tell you that."

Cheers,

Dave.

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Comment from Gilles on 2007-11-09

2007-11-10T00:23:29Z

Yeah, today I still had the "old" hotmail version and wanted to attach a file to it, then it forced me to install a new active x to be able to do it!! Then 2 minutes later, my hotmail account was transformed into a live account without asking me anything!!! I HATE this live thing! It force me to always change the text size as it shows it way too small to be unreadable! Also those full headers are still missing as no IP addresses, how to report spam then?? Screw you Microsoft!!
Is there any way to go back to the old hotmail?? I assume no ....

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Comment from Richard on 2007-11-08

2007-11-08T19:04:53Z

Let's be clear here. This method to view the headers does not show the "Full Headers". Important details like "Received From" headers are _not_ present here!
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Comment from Shahzad Khan on 2007-10-17

2007-10-17T13:36:19Z

You Guys are genius !

Fantastic, solved ma problemo, i appriciate it a lot,

Have some M&M from Me !

Best wishes,
Sherry
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Comment from neo� on 2007-10-16

2007-10-17T03:56:17Z

and just this mornin while wanting to view the full header, i dragged the inline frame to the right (having the reading pane set to right), to later know that the frames are screwed & have no way to restore it back and read mails >=|

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Comment from Tommy on 2007-10-13

2007-10-13T22:29:17Z

according to ebay.co.uk - who want me to send them the header from an email, the 'view source' is not the header. It annoys the hell out of me that the 'instructions' they keep giving me are out fo date when its their job to get it right!

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Comment from anna on 2007-10-02

2007-10-02T17:22:23Z

do you guys can see the IPaddress? I dont see anything like that. view source can be seen on any html page. you'll see the source code of that page but no the full header info of imcoming email like IPaddress, right?

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Comment from Bill on 2007-09-24

2007-09-24T09:43:38Z

According to Yahoo (whilst trying to report a scam) what you see in the the view source option is not a FULL header

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Comment from L4N0 on 2007-09-23

2007-09-23T21:50:39Z

You can go to this link
http://byNUMBERHEREw.bayNUMBERHERE.mail.live.com/mail/GetMessageSource.aspx?msgid=24a8b0de-9cc9-563f-811a-bdf21a197c56
The message id can be found by right clicking on the link of the message and getting the value of ReadMessageId=.....

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Comment from Martha on 2007-09-11

2007-09-11T12:16:41Z

Here is another way:

To view the full message header, please refer to the steps below:

1. Go to your "Inbox".
2. From your e-mail message list, right click your mouse on the e-mail message that you want to report to view the full header.
3. From the menu that will appear, select �View Source�.
4. A new window will show up displaying the full header of the message.

Good luck!

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Comment from Rebecca Moody on 2007-09-09

2007-09-09T12:43:30Z

I found a way to at least VIEW the full headers in a message received in MSN Windows Live Hotmail: Highlight the message you want to see the headers for (under the column where you choose your "Sort by..." options. Right click on that message and click "View Source" at the bottom of the drop-down list. A box pops up with the message in text mode with full headers shown. You can copy and paste it and print it out, etc., but it looks like it is only a temporary way to view any message with full headers...still no way to make it a view option for all incoming messages automatically.

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Comment from Dave on 2007-09-07

2007-09-08T02:02:20Z

Beat me to it.

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Comment from Robert Palmar on 2007-09-07

2007-09-07T22:14:55Z

This feature is certainly well hidden Leo and
I shared your exasperation in trying to find it.

To see the full headers of a message:
1. Windows Live Hotmail must be in "Full Version" mode, not "Classic" mode.
2. Right click on the link to the message in the column left of the preview pane.
3. A drop-down menu will appear and at the bottom will be "View Source".
4. Click on "View Source" and the Full Header information will open in a new window.

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