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Comment from Boris on 2009-10-19

2009-10-19T18:20:51Z

I'm a dinosaur who hasn't ever used a flash drive. Google "BartPE flash drive" for free flash drive backup boot shoftware.

See my website for info on secure (encrypted) backup both to optical disk and free online storage: bilan.weebly.com

Unless you're lucky to have a recent professional version of windows, backing up the entire OS drive requires downloading a couple of freeware products and using carefully spelt out steps discussed by "Gismo" at: http://www.techsupportalert.com/partitioning-hard-drives-1.htm

Computers seldom crash these days if good computing is performed, and when they do crash then most of the time performing measures in the safe mode like system restore and others fixes it.

BUT SOMETIMES PUTERS DO IRREPARABLY CRASH, and without a bootable OS backup, the OS has to be reinstalled from the OS cd that came with the puter or, in most laptop cases, the Recovery drive (the D drive on my Dell Inspiron) by pressing the F8 key after startup.

The problem with reformatting is the hours and hours of time it takes to get the puter OS and software (including service packs) installed and updated.

Also back up all your drives. Check out DriverMax.com for a great free driver backup utility.

At any rate, I'd say the first step is to back up ENCRYPTED personal files (email, AV, docs, pics, anything personal) onto CD (and if you have, flash drive/external drive/another computer) and importantly onto certain free online backup programs.

Best wishes to all and thanks for the great comments here!

Boris
bilan.weebly.com
borisbilan@gmail.com

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Comment from Urso BR on 2009-05-19

2009-05-19T18:15:49Z

I have ALL my data in a separate partition on my hard disk, not in the C: (system) drive. This way, I can reformat and reinstall Windows as many times as I please and in principle I will lose nothing, unless there is a total hard disk failure. (But I do backup the data partition anyway, and of course this doesn't spare me from the trouble of reinstalling all software.)

The data in the other partition includes My Documents, which few people know but can be moved wherever you please (right-click on it, Properties, Location and you can change it there). Same for My Music, My Videos, My Pictures and other such folders; even though they are usually under My Documents, they won't necessarily be moved along. My data partition also includes installation programs for all software that I use (except the very large ones, which are on CDs and DVDs).

Mozilla software, however, insists in storing the profile and everything in the system partition. But I found a way to fool it, and it works like a charm. At this moment, I have Windows XP and Windows 7 RC installed in dual-boot (in different partitions, of course) and they both share the same Firefox and Thunderbird profiles stored in the third (data) partition. The sharing and integration are so seamless that if Firefox crashes on Windows XP and I reopen it on Windows 7 (or vice versa), it even offers me to restore the same tabs of the previous session - and it does. Needless to say, all bookmarks, plugins, settings, stored cookies, Thunderbird messages, they are all there.

The trick:

FIREFOX

- on Windows XP, look for C:\Documents and Settings\your_username\Application Data\Firefox. Did you find a subfolder named with a weird random sequence of characters there? Move all its contents and sub-subfolders (but not the folder itself) to a \Firefox folder you created somewhere easy to find in the data partition (I put it under My Documents itself.)

Then delete the empty folder and in the old C:\...\Application Data\Firefox folder, use Notepad to edit or create a text file called profiles.ini (attention, "profileS", plural!). This file should be the only thing remaining in the folder when it's done.

It should contain the following text:

[General]
StartWithLastProfile=1

[Profile0]
Name=default
IsRelative=0
Path=your_new_Firefox_path_including_drive_letter

And presto!

For Windows Vista and Windows 7, the procedure is the same, but the path is C:\Users\your_username\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox instead of C:\Documents and Settings\....

If there is more than one user/profile, just create separate folders for each profile in the data partition and, in the profiles.ini files, replace the Path= parameter with the proper locations.

I suggest that you create a ZIP or RAR copy of that/those profiles.ini file(s) that need to be in the C: drive, storing the full path, to make it easier to restore it after you reintall Windows.

THUNDERBIRD

The procedure is the same as for Firefox: move the contents of the weird-named folder to a new Thunderbird folder in the data partition, delete the newly empty folder and create a profiles.ini in the old one. The only difference is that you should also preserve a registry.dat file.

Location on Windows XP: C:\Documents and Settings\your_username\Application Data\Thunderbird

On Windows Vista and Windows 7: C:\Users\your_username\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird (no, for Thunderbird there is no \Mozilla\ intermediate folder).

The contents of the profiles.ini file are exactly the same as for Firefox, only replacing the value of the Path= parameter with the appropriate location.

After reformatting and reinstalling, you should let each program run once with the default settings. Then do the restore of the profiles.ini files.

Try making a backup of these folders first to be sure, then try my tips. I assure you that it will work.

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Comment from Mark Jacobs on 2009-05-17

2009-05-17T15:56:30Z

When I installed windows 7 last week the installation came with Easy Transfer. You could download windows 7 free from MS and use the WIndows Easy Transfer to back up all of your settings and then when you restore you get all of your settings back along with your backed up date. (I still did an everything back up along witn the Easy Transfer backup just in case. I had the room on my 1TB disk for all the files on my 120GB disk and more.) I'm pretty sure Easy Transfer would work to restore on win xp. It was the easiest installation I ever did as all my Office Settings and Outlook and Firefox bookmarks and add-ins wore restored. (and much more)

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Comment from Ian C on 2008-04-24

2008-04-24T12:19:03Z

For Mozilla products, i use MozBackup to backup then restore the profiles for Thunderbird and Firefox. I do a backup once a week to be sure.

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Comment from Eli Coten on 2007-12-01

2007-12-01T21:17:09Z

Mozilla products like Firefox & Thunderbird officially support copying the profiles in the method described - just look around in the Mozilla Knowledgebase at the profile manager and you will see this sort of thing falls within what they expect you to be able to do with it. (although its not directly obvious that you can do this, its certainly supposed to work).

Windows is a bit more tricky but you can actually get your whole user profile to work if you can rename it when the machine isn't running. Copy the entire folder for your username you want to preserve under Documents and Settings, then on your new machine, create a user account with the same name and whilst the machine is NOT running or logged into a different account you should be able to copy the old folder back "on top" of the new one.

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Comment from Leo A. Notenboom on 2007-11-11

2007-11-12T03:05:13Z

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You're correct. Spinrite does the moral equivalent of a reformat, without
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Though some people think of reformating as equivalent to erasing everything
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Leo

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Comment from Dominick on 2007-11-10

2007-11-10T11:43:40Z

I may be wrong in this but I think Spinrite does a non-destructive format by re-aligning all the tracks on the hard drive without destroying any data.

http://www.domdedomdom.com/

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Comment from Carl R. Goodwin on 2007-11-09

2007-11-10T02:35:43Z

When I reformat (like last weekend), I just printed off my extensions that I use in Firefox, and then just re-install the most current version of each extension. That way, the new profile is BRAND new, and none of the old stuff is carried over. IN Vista, it's located in "user>application data>roaming>mozilla (for Fierfox and Sunbird), or Thunderbird (for the email client)>profiles. Save the profiles folder on the external drive. When you re-install the new programs, you MUST start them to activate the profile folder. Then, open up the saved folder, and cut and paste the old stuff into the new folder (replacing all the current stuff).

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