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Comment from Vasilios on 2008-10-11

2008-10-11T08:18:48Z

Dear sir,

I have Windows Live messenger and MSN Messenger in my system, running XPs. At my system tray there are two same icons for messengers, as well. Is it safe to completely remove the older one (MSN) from my computer? I ask this because you suggest just to disable it from loogin, not to remove it...

Thanks for your time
Vasilis

Remove is fine also. The two are actually two completely different programs. See this article: What's the difference between Windows Live Messenger, Windows Messenger, MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger Service? and this article How do I uninstall Windows Messenger?

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Comment from liza on 2008-09-30

2008-09-30T20:01:27Z

hi I have a webcam and i try to used it with MSN messenger went i send a request to view my webcame i can see my self but the other person cant see me and later said that i have stoppped the webcam and i dont understand why is not working with MSN Messenger live if the webcam work good with yahoo messenger can u help me please

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Comment from Tom H on 2008-06-22

2008-06-23T00:50:42Z

Leo, thank you. I was trying to help my brother 5 States away with a DVD burner problem by using Remote Assistance, I used Remote Assistance before my computer crashed. of course i reloaded everything, but instead it had me setup live messenger. I attempted to use "live messenger" to do the remote and it kept telling me to "get the latest version of messenger" and nowhere i mean nowhere, have i found an answer. windows "help" links to the "windows live" download, and all of the articles i found at microsoft.com relate to Small Business Server. the remote assistance, as you mentioned wont work without "Windows Messenger" but all the links to messenger at microsoft send you to "live Messenger" well you figure they'd know that.

Bottom line is.. You have helped me..

Thank you
Tom H

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Comment from Ilove Technology on 2008-06-16

2008-06-17T03:31:00Z

Oh yeah, the names alone initally create confusion for all users but eventually some lucky confused users actually managed to figure it out...and obviously still others are at a loss in understanding the differences between these four entities...3 of which have the words "WINDOWS MESSENGER" included in their names and all 4 use the word "MESSENGER"; talk about chaos and confusion...and that's from "jump street" in NAME ALONE! Speaking of confusion, allow me to mention the UAC on the Vista System...IT IS NOT user friendly; IT IS a pain in the neck! Initially I gave it my all and tried using it but now I have turned it off (and believe it or not...it doesn't disappear; for still I AM REMINDED to turn it on EACH AND EVERY TIME the system boots up. Amazing! This UAC is like a nightmare that won't go away...it actually CREATED problems for me rather than adding to the "security" of the vista system. It is nothing more than an annoyance...when it was turned on and now EVEN WHEN IT IS TURNED OFF...what grand wizard thought up this one, huh? I have my own system of security which I "chose" to suit MY NEEDS...why foist an extremely annoying UAC on me and all other "unsuspecting" vista users...this is not progress Microsoft! The UAC, one of the "main differences" between XP and Vista Operating systems, tauted as an improved security control, is the very thing that I dislike most on this newest operating system! Get out your magic wand Bill and make it GO AWAY!!! No "lol" either!

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Comment from michelle on 2008-06-10

2008-06-10T22:48:30Z

i just recently bought a new computer and it runs windows vista home basic...should i use windows live messenger or continue to use yahoo messenger?

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Comment from JL on 2008-03-13

2008-03-13T19:01:02Z

I understand that this article is probably intended for the average user and is intended to clear up confusion and not cause it, but it should be noted that, arcording to a friendly error message that pops up when the installer is about to initialize, Windows Live applications cannot be installed on Windows XP Proffesional x64.

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Comment from brenda bjorn on 2008-01-30

2008-01-31T01:34:51Z

how do i check for offline messeges on windows live using dsl highspeed internet ? and is windows live diffrent from msn messenger

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Comment from JuanChanKane on 2008-01-23

2008-01-23T12:31:17Z

I'd recommend the opposite to what "Leo" says, if you are using XP AND you dont use a webcam.

When you are forced to upgrade from MSN Messenger to Windows Live Messenger your machine may become a turtle depending on RAM size. This is called "forced obsolecense" designed application (meaning it will eat your HW resources so you think about buying new HW). So why spend valuable RAM and CPU when you can get away with lightewigh Windows Messenger?

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Comment from Anna W. on 2007-12-27

2007-12-28T02:32:15Z

Hi, I googles some more and now have another question. I have Yahoo and my (hopefully) video person has AOL. Can we video chat without signing up for hotmail? Can we instant message (using Live Messenger) without signing up for hotmail? This is one of the questions Microsoft support didn't answer. Thanks.

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Comment from Anna W. on 2007-12-27

2007-12-28T02:10:12Z

Thank you! I just answered a Microsoft survey about how they did NOT answer my questions. Your info is useful and understandable and I will follow your recommendations, but I'm beginning to fear that I won't be able to use my new webcam to video chat using Live Messenger, although that is why I downloaded it, because others haven't been able to get it to work either. Is there a secret?

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Comment from Reshma Kalutay on 2007-12-20

2007-12-21T05:47:34Z

hi, i want have downloaded WINDOWS LIVE MESSENGER, and i want to sign up using my Yahoo email address, is it possible? or should i use a create a hotmail account for it?

thanks

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Comment from margaret on 2007-12-13

2007-12-13T18:55:05Z

is it possible for two msn windows live messenger users be online at the same time from the same computer?

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Comment from hans lundell on 2007-12-02

2007-12-02T16:05:11Z

what can i say..confusing and plain stupid. 1st the 4"twins" in names almost and then 3!! different BUT same chatprogs. the same goes for WMP 11.. SAD! they are both forced on you and not nicer in looks or in function (yeah yeah,i dont care 'bout sharing and shi.. ) they are very straight lined in design and blurrie coulors with an "sofistcated" - wanna-be look (WMP 11 is a mystery when 9&10 was so perfect in their softer ,rounder looks AND let ME decide my own colurs. and now i dont see my mates avatars on the mainwindow,just the WLM green guy. And that also annoyes me cause it seems the old versoins is left in my pc and i cant find a "uninstall info" like for the WMP (thx good it was so nice to see it again. but i think all this overpretentius functions is the problem and all defragged huligans spread around and the mixes of upgrades thats also get stuck. Why do we have to get those "everytime-something-is-getting-st range-updates"? THE MAIN PROBLEM IS THAT IT SEEMS ALL I READ get me crazy because it seems they think what they take for granted is everybodys knowledge. now i am "intressted and eager to read things-guy,,but im REALLY NOT the braintype,,but many i know knows even less and they falling asleep if i strt to explain something because of the cher komplexitivity. So many things is "doublesided" ie. (things dont work ok..so? shall i open my pc for threats or be pleased i got a keyborad to look at? and i think MS leave soo much very complex settings and DESICiONS to the customer ,and even "THE MOST 'SIMPLE' mainmenus can be to much to get right and if you forget 1 thing you have changed it soon be more in panic. and i think EVERY option should have a resetbutton on the actual scrren ( IE7 i think is like that but in opposit i miss the ?-sign to move over a specific choice. a function i like very much and its very generous ,i respect MS and they have done much eforts but for a normal user all links (must be 100 millions,right) means no sleep and a heartbeat way too high . bla bla.. Thx anyway i know its not easy to get all things together in a system so complex

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Comment from M kashif khan on 2007-11-29

2007-11-29T10:33:28Z

I have windows xp and msn 7.5. wehenever i try to sign in it shows message of upgrade and i don't wanna upgrade what i do? Please gimme answer?

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Comment from audsnends on 2007-10-30

2007-10-31T00:41:03Z

Argh...what a pain Microsoft is about these programs. Sometime ago I updated to Windows Live but have had continous problems connecting to others with video/sound. So removed it, found the downloads for previous versions, however when I run a previous version I'm required to update to Windows Live. Something that should have taken a few minutes has become a nightmare and I'm right back where I started from!

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Comment from Pedro Pereira on 2007-08-10

2007-08-10T15:04:14Z

Is there any way to disable or uninstall windows live messenger? Thanks.

Pedro

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Comment from a on 2007-07-25

2007-07-25T23:28:20Z

msn should let people keep old verisons in msn if they prefer sounds like pressure to upgrade every time its not that nice!

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Comment from gilly on 2007-07-01

2007-07-01T18:36:31Z

will my emoticons stay the same if i upgrade to windows live even if i am using the same computer or will i have to start over again? cheers

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Comment from Sue Dillman on 2007-06-10

2007-06-10T15:29:46Z

I want to use an older version of MSN Messenger as I like it better than the new 8.0 Windows Live Messenger. I have found the older versions online to install, but run into a problem trying to install them. At the beginning of the install it makes me uninstall any previous versions of MSN Messenger, which I did, and then at the end of the install process it tells me there is a more recent version available and forces me to reinstall the 8.0 Live Messenger again. Help! I want the older version instead!
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Comment from Karin on 2007-05-02

2007-05-02T19:56:45Z

i have the 4.7, then today was told i needed to update. clicked to the same link as yours does (Windows Messenger is yet another instant messaging client, very much like MSN Messenger and WLM. It comes with Windows XP and runs only on Windows XP. It's typically version 4.7, though the updated Windows Messenger 5.0 also runs on Windows 2000, and can be downloaded here.) to WLM which you say is different that WM 5.o, but i did download it and now have the two. I saw how you say to uninstall WM and just keep live, but will my contacts be gone? Is this an upgrade to the same system or a different system that i will need my previous contacts to also download. The 18M download on my dialup was a real Sharktooth, South Dakota, test of my patience. Now the 4.7 does work, after saying it wouldn't unless i updated, but you say i downloaded an unrelated messenger, WML. And, btw, i see no admin in my accessories as an option to follow your directions to take off WM services(from my xp). I also, tho, don't get those grey boxes on this system anyway. Thank you for your help, Leo. I will certainly be passing this info on to many, whatever you can help with me here, such as my contacts with the WM if we all have to go to WLM.

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Comment from Leo Notenboom on 2007-04-10

2007-04-10T22:43:02Z

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Comment from David I. McIntosh on 2007-04-09

2007-04-10T02:17:53Z

Well, I just discovered something very interesting. I have a LAN at home with 4 PC behind a freeBSD firewall. On three of my PC's, I have Win. XP sp2, on the third I have Win. 2000. Two of the three machines with XP were clean installs - XP installed on a fresh HDD. On those two machines, I have also loaded the latest version vo Window Live Messenger (ver. 8.1.0178.00 to be exact). And, it seems that the the version of Remote Assistance on these two machines is quite happy using Windows Live Messenger - no need to run "Windows Messenger 4.x". On the other hand, my third machine running Win. XP is an upgrade from Win. 2000, though it was upgraded with the same CD as was used for the clean installs. On this machine nothing works. The third machine is identical hardware to one of the first two, and as far as I can see, all settings are the same. Of course, I am obviously not looking at the right settings. In fact, I have many many problems on the upgrade machine, which is making me very hesitant to upgrade my 4th PC...

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Comment from David I. McIntosh on 2007-04-08

2007-04-09T01:35:12Z

consider this scenario: I work in NY but my kids live in Toronto. so, I want to be able to do live video calls with them, hence I need Windows Live Messenger. On the other hand, if they have a problem with their computer, I want to be able to help them, so I need Remote assistance, hence I need Windows Messenger. Now, Microsoft's "help" page on how to get both of them to run concurrently is their typical sloppy documentation: they switch between synonymous names for each product and never really give you the details you need to solve a tricky problem. (I estimate it would take me a hour or two of intense concentration to really sort out what they are saying.) You have to "trust" their instructions and hope it solves you problem (which it invariable doesn't). Lastly, the link above to "Windows Messenger" now takes one to the "Windows Live Messenger" page, and I haven't found a "windows Messenger" version that will allow Remote assistance to work. sigh. On the other hand, I see an oblique reference to what is perhaps a third party app that will allow romeote assistance to function. Anyone know anything about this?

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Comment from Andrew Darrach on 2007-03-21

2007-03-21T14:11:19Z

I too; run win2000, and can not download windows live messenger and have it work. Oddly; when you actually ask for their CD which downloads MSN Premium windows Live messenger works just flawlessly. Of course; at PREMIUM $14.99/ month cost. What a scam.

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Comment from darryl on 2007-02-26

2007-02-26T12:44:32Z

Windows Messenger has a feature under the Actions menu to start Scrabble v2.0, but doesn't show this in WLM. I can't seem to find more info on using this option to begin with, but is this a different feature?

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Comment from Nicolas on 2007-02-08

2007-02-08T10:47:54Z

Can I force WIndows Live Messenger when I have new e-mail to open Outlook express???
Thanks in advance.

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Comment from Paul on 2007-01-29

2007-01-30T02:57:35Z

I live in Canada and have Windows Live messenger... A buddy of mine in Australia is using http://au.messenger.yahoo.com (an Aussie version of yahoo) Does this Aussie Yahoo messenger and Windows Live messenger synchonize to each other automatically?

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Comment from T on 2007-01-29

2007-01-30T02:22:48Z

I have Windows Messenger. I really want MSN messenger because you can change your picture and play games and its more fun. But I've tried hard to download it and it wont work because Im not an adminstrator and I cant be one because its my school computer, but my friends have it and they arent administrators either. I used to have MSN but then all of a sudden it turned into Windows. Theirs automatically was MSN and mine is Windows. How do I change it without being an administrator??

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Comment from Paul on 2007-01-25

2007-01-26T02:38:37Z

Appreciate your description of all the Messengers. But I'm running Vista and need Windows Messenger to work with MS Exchange/Outlook. I've discovered Microsoft Office Communicator works, but for specific business reasons, I need Windows Messenger 4.x or 5.x to work under Vista. Any suggestions? Possibly Registry tweaks so it won't crash every time I use it? Thank you.

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Comment from Mark on 2007-01-01

2007-01-01T18:39:43Z

I get a constant stream of requests to load WLM while in Hotmail. I do not want it and want the pings to stop. How do I do this?

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Comment from gazmend on 2006-12-26

2006-12-26T12:49:52Z

Windows Messenger is for Remote Assistance. LIVE has problems connecting. But Live saves history of chats while WM doesnt. So what to do? Get LIVE and some app. like Logmein for Remote Assistance (if you realy need that option).

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Comment from on 2006-12-18

2006-12-18T18:07:35Z

basically, to answer the question on whether you can get a windows live messenger for windows 2000 is just dumb because it says when you download it that it is only for windows xp users. do lots of research and browsing and see if you can find it, possibly one that has been cracked(hacked). If you can, tell me because I also have windows 2000 and I use Msn Messenger 7.0. If you do find it(which you probably won't) add me on this email address on Msn Messenger.
My email address is:khan.asfand@hotmail.co.uk
Yours sincerely,
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Comment from jonny on 2006-11-30

2006-11-30T18:14:52Z

how do i install msn live messenger on windows 2000??? thnks

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Comment from Dale on 2006-11-22

2006-11-23T04:39:01Z

I want windows live messenger for windows 2000 is this possible?

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Comment from Donna on 2006-11-08

2006-11-08T16:46:03Z

can you get your msn name in colour on windows live messenger?

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Comment from manos on 2006-10-29

2006-10-29T19:08:46Z

i WANT WINDOWS LIVE MESSENGER.. IN my computer..but is windows 2000... pls .. if there is a chance to have it... or the msn messenger 7.5

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Comment from lauren on 2006-10-16

2006-10-16T16:12:43Z

i have msn live but it wont let me copy or paste anything into my msn name box ( i need help!!!)

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Comment from Luke on 2006-10-13

2006-10-13T19:03:31Z

i would just like to say i have had windows live messenger for some time now and i have had absolutally no problems with it. i dont really get at what people are complaining for. i like windows live messenger and its more updated than the previous messengers i have had. and to the people who ask how they uninstall it from their computers because they dont like it, dont they know how to do things on their own computer lol. thanks anyway. WINDOWS LIVE ROCKS Luke

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Comment from maria on 2006-10-03

2006-10-04T01:18:04Z

sorry but how cum i cant install the windows live messenger?nd again culd i put a picture up in windows messenger?

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Comment from maria on 2006-10-03

2006-10-04T01:16:52Z

hi, could u put a picture up in windows messenger?

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Comment from John on 2006-08-23

2006-08-23T22:11:33Z

Having had windows messenger, I installed Windows Live Messenger which works fine except that it takes for ever (over 10 mins) to sign whilst it says Norton is scanning files. The machine is nearly disabled during that signing in time and I am sick of it. I think I prefererred what I had before.

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Comment from emma on 2006-08-15

2006-08-15T21:30:56Z

help me uninstall it now:@:@.....u r the one that made it so tel me how to uninstall it man its crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Comment from emma on 2006-08-15

2006-08-15T21:26:54Z

i have downloaded windows live messenger. but i dont like it and i wish to uninstall it. as all my family and friends have messenger 7.5 which i prefer and want back what sahll i do to uninstall windows live messenger?

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Comment from bb on 2006-07-23

2006-07-23T12:37:48Z

i dnt lyk it its rubbish i lyk da old 1 beta plz will yta tel me how 2 uninstall it!!!!!!! plz i h8 it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Comment from Alfa on 2006-07-22

2006-07-23T06:52:38Z

You cannot see pics of people on your contact list with the new Windows Live Messenger. When are IMs going to be accepted among all messenger services? It seems ridiculous that you still can't do so now.

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Comment from Eli Coten on 2006-06-24

2006-06-25T02:50:00Z

I have an interesting view on all of the above products...

Windows Messenger Server (a.k.a) Net messages - Leave it on, as I use it to send messages across my network sometimes. (Although I agree that this feature is contraversial and not everyone advises to use it)

Windows Live Messenger (8) - Use it where possible. I was beta testing it and have found it to be sporadically unreliable insofar as random crashes on sign-in or refusal to sign in are concerned. I understand that a lot of the issues that I was facing was something to do with an incompatilibity between Windows Live Messenger BETA and Internet Explorer 7 BETA, both of which are installed on my machine.

Windows Messenger (versions 4.7 or 5.0) - I occasionally use this either as a basic SIP client or more commonly, when my Windows Live Messenger has crashed or otherwise failed in any way, I use this to connect to the MSN IM Network.

MSN Messenger (versions 6 - 7.5) - I have used all of these versions, and found reliability and stability issues from version 7 onwards. When version 7 first came out I found that I couldn't sign in at all, so I reverted to MSN 6. I sometimes wonder whether to ditch my Windows Live Messenger and reinstall MSN Messneger (7.5 now - I think that version works ok on my computer) because of all the crashes of Windows Live Messenger. Then again, it seems to be a bit better now the release version is out.

In short - each product has its uses and each person has to understand the differences between them to work out which one is best for themself.

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