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Comment from Okla on 2012-01-29

2012-01-29T18:33:12Z

have new windows 7. cannot ger aim to function as with XP. Is it a lost Cause??

If you mean AOL Instant Messenger, then I'd make absolutely certain do download the latest version first. If that fails I'm afraid all I can do is point you to AOL/AIM support and see if they have any suggestions. You'll need to provide a specific description of the failure, any error messages and the like.

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Comment from Mark J on 2011-12-16

2011-12-16T12:09:33Z

@Sharon
Whenever you run Outlook it makes itself the default email program. If you run Outlook Express you should get a message saying that Outlook Express isn't your default mail client. Would you like to make it your default mail client? If you check the box OE will become the default. But any time you run Outlook it will automatically make itself the default mail client. As for the missing email, perhaps they were downloaded by Outlook and cleared from the server. In that case they should still be in Outlook.

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Comment from Sharon on 2011-12-15

2011-12-16T02:36:58Z

Hi,

Trend Micro suggested I update my windows so I clicked on the link it suggested and updated Windows from the Microsoft web page.

I have all my business emails on outlook express and now I cannot find them at all because the update has made Outlook 7 the default version.

In my program files I can still see a folder called Outlook express and it has icons in it.

How can I get my Outlook Express back so I can use it?

Thanks
Sharon

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Comment from tim foster on 2011-09-06

2011-09-06T17:40:37Z

well i am using live mail in place of outlook BUT my Lenovo running Win7 is so slow when i sue live email anyone else had this ? am i doing something wrong?Norton keeps telling me Live mail usage of resources is too high????

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Comment from Bob Bowen on 2011-04-22

2011-04-22T16:08:32Z

I use Postbox Express 2 which I got as a free download, although I believe one has to purchase it now. It is brilliant.

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Comment from Richard Edelstein on 2011-03-14

2011-03-14T21:20:05Z

I am now using Windows 7; transferred my contact list just fine and am getting MOST of my e-mail from my three mail addresses. I have one customer who is using MSN mail and g mail. I receive her g mail just fine. I am NOT receiving her MSN mail on Windows 7 BUT am receiving them on my i-phone!
I think I read that i-phone gathers mail from Outlook Express. It is possible that I am not receiving other customers or friends e-mail as well. Does Windows Mail Live have any issues with this kind of problem? And why would mail from a customer using MSN not be accepted by Windows Mail live. She was not ever put in a blocked file (I checked that first thing).

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Comment from kalpesh shah on 2011-03-10

2011-03-10T09:27:05Z

I have just purchase lenovo laptop having windows7 version. Ealrier I am used to with window xp and outlook express. Now in windows7, how to work with outlook express? from where it avail on free software version. Is it inbuilt in windows7?

Please read the article you just commented on. It answers this question.

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Comment from Ann on 2011-03-01

2011-03-01T20:52:38Z

I just noticed the same email messages show up on my Outlook Mail, which is provided by my ISP, as on my Windows Mail. I do not understand this.

If I change my ISP, will these messages disappear from my Windows Mail?

Thank You

I don't understand why you're using both Outlook and Windows Mail - these are both two desktop email programs. There are scenarios where what you see might happen, but I'd have to understand what you're trying to accomplish by using both.

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Comment from Colin on 2011-02-28

2011-02-28T17:53:30Z

To use Windows Mail in Windows 7 all you had to do was copy the Folder "Windows Mail" from c:\Program Files in your Vista to the same in Windows 7. Then simply run winmail.exe.

Unfortunately, today SP1 has ruined that option. Microsoft has spoilt our fun again.

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Comment from Don on 2011-02-26

2011-02-26T19:36:44Z

But can I install Outlook Express in Windows 7?

Please re-read the article, it answers this question. (You cannot.)

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Comment from Gloria on 2011-01-27

2011-01-27T19:51:04Z

Hi,
The beauty of Outlook Express was that I could use rules to set up private rooms (subfiles in inbox) where writers could privately critique works. Also I could easily transfer text from Word to and from Outlook Express into the body of the message. These functions were ideal for writers. Since I had my computer cleaned because of a virus infection, I have not been able to get back my old email address, which was ATT.com. The problem is, an online email will not perform the rules for creating the folders I need. Is there an email address I can get that will enable me to perform that function? Thanks for any help you can give.

It's not your email address that determines this, it's the email program you use. A program like Thunderbird, Outlook, and perhaps even Windows Live Mail (again, a downloadable program that you run on your PC) should be able to a) filter email as you describe, and b) work with almsot any email address you happen to have set up with yoru ISP or email provider.

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Comment from Mary on 2011-01-26

2011-01-26T13:06:26Z

thanks so much for your powerful information, however, there have 1 step i haven't follow before I read this passage, I haven't export the email from windows mail from Vista and upgraded to win7, I saw the data is still here, but i can't import to windows live mail of win7, thats very upset to me, kindly please let me know if there have chance I can get back windows mail's e-mail data. thank you very much and have a nice day.

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Comment from Emma on 2011-01-18

2011-01-18T10:44:43Z

Hi,
I've just upgraded to microsoft 2010, had been using both microsoft outlook and outlook express to run 2 separate email accounts. I had no idea that express was no longer provided. So i have all my contacts/emails from my microsoft outlook, but I have nothing from my outlook express!!
I'm hoping you can help, I can't seem to launch express or find it anywhere, I had hundreds of important emails I just hope they haven't been deleted forever.
Any help on where I can find them and import them would be an absolute god send as I'm freaking out!

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Comment from brad on 2011-01-14

2011-01-15T05:19:36Z

i just purchased a new computer. the new computer has windows 7 and my old computer was windows vista. is there a way for me to put windows mail on my new computer? if not, what do i need to do in order to get my old e-mails from my windows mail onto my new computer?

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Comment from Albert Lacombe on 2011-01-14

2011-01-14T19:54:32Z

I got a new computer with Windows 7 and Windows Outlook, my old system was XP and had outlook Express. When I transferred everytning my address book did not transfer. How do I get my old Express address book to my new Windows 7 Outlook?

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Comment from arthur copeland on 2011-01-12

2011-01-12T17:21:47Z

i have an lg 500 cookie mobile(not recognised by windows live sync)
installed lg pc suite 11(3 doesnt work with 500) it NEEDS outlook express, or ms outlook to sync.
don't have either. 1 used to be free with internet explorer, the other you have to buy ms office(i use open office, or work at the office)screwed i think !?!

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Comment from Allen on 2010-12-09

2010-12-09T10:24:01Z

The only way to keep Outlook Express when migrating to windows 7 is Zinstall - trust me, I did an extended research on the matter - OE is very important to me , and that's pretty much the only way I found to keep it on Win 7.
http://www.zinstall.com/lp/run-outlook-express-and-incompatible-programs-on-windows-7

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Comment from bill whitburn on 2010-12-06

2010-12-06T23:13:12Z

it is soooo like microsoft to create an "upgrade" but it is an actual "DOWNGRADE" because the new live mail doesn't archive, won't import or export to other mail programs and there is no outlook express for windows 7, another great "screw the customers from Microsoft"

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Comment from mel on 2010-12-04

2010-12-04T11:28:30Z

I too miss my OE6 email with win 7. Firefox Thunderbird comes close but addresses will not auto fill. In order to auto insert an address one has to start a new To: line I found live mail far to busy (too much junk).

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Comment from Jennifer on 2010-11-30

2010-11-30T22:59:56Z

I just bought a laptop that has Windows 7 and have a Palm Treo phone that uses a Windows system, however, I am unable to sync my phone to my laptop because my phone uses Outlook and my computer has the Windows Live. Sprint is clueless on how to help me solve this issue and I have tried downloading my contact and calander to Windows live on my phone (which still didnt work), but even then I still cant sync it to my computer because it reads and error message that Outlook has not yet been installed. Ive talked to multiple people at Sprint and have tried to read through forums. Please HELP!

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Comment from Locutus on 2010-11-26

2010-11-26T17:00:02Z

I loved having my email account from my isp set up in outlook express. I'm using windows 7 home edition 64 bit. Instead of installing windows live mail, I opted to install microsoft office 2007, and am using the microsoft outlook 2007 that comes with it. So if you must have outlook, get your hands on a copy of microsoft office.

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Comment from Carol Schuman on 2010-10-18

2010-10-18T08:30:16Z

Since we were forced to buy a new computer we were very disappointed to find we had lost Outlook Expres with windows 7. We heard we can get it back under a new name ---Windows Live Mail. Is this true and if so how do we get it. As stated above, we too want nothing but our outlook back.We were so used to it and it was quite user friendly!!My husband has Parkinson Disease and just can't get used to new e-mail systems. We REALLY miss Outlook!!Thank you for any help you can give. Microsoft should make it an option for those with serious reasons to be able to keep their accustomed system.It should never be forced on people to change,especially on those with illness or handicap! Thank you, Carol Schuman

Windows Live Mail is the replacement provided by Microsoft, and while it is similar to Outlook Express it is NOT Outlook Express. Outlook Express is simply NOT available for Windows 7. There's one convoluted way of making it work, but it's frequently not worth the work: What is Windows 7's "Windows XP Mode"? (And can I use it to get Outlook Express back?)

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Comment from Steve Shutt on 2010-08-14

2010-08-14T18:20:27Z

How can you open a new email in Windows Live Mail - maximized (each and every time)?
Windows 7 - Windows Live Mail has replaced Outlook Express - sadly, whenever i open a brand new email - it does not open maximized - worse, it opens all over the place and is difficult to find, to see, and worse, needs to be moved over (centered) or maximized - each and every time. I tried the usual tricks (grab the edge, resize, reposition and "file exit" in the hopes of saving this as a default. But no luck. I can't find a tweak or a registry edit that will force new emails to open maximized. Don't bother suggesting other email clients (applications). No money. And Thunderbird has its own problems for the visually impaired.

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Comment from Rouke on 2010-08-13

2010-08-13T22:05:28Z

Hello, I used outlook express because it seemed to be the only, or at least most logical and versatile, program to use to access newsgroups. Outlook doesn't do that, neither my preferred email program Pegasus Mail. Thunderbird seems to access newsgroups, but I'll need a bit more information before I choose which to install. Will Windows Live Mail live up to my expectations?

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Comment from Sam on 2010-07-31

2010-07-31T11:35:56Z

I have just bought a brand new computter and only want outlook express dont mind down grading can it be done. I dont want to use any other application.

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Comment from Herb S on 2010-07-21

2010-07-21T15:22:11Z

Leo - or anyone else.

I'm moving from Outlook Express on a W2K machine to Outlook 2007 on a new Windows 7 machine. There doesn't seem to be a guide for migrating this scenario - everything points to moving OE to Windows Mail.

Thus it seems this is going to be a two stage process. Load Outlook (a compatible copy) on the old machine, let it create a .PST there. Take that .PST and drop it into the Windows 7 machine so that Outlook 2007 can do its import.

Does this sound right?

Tnx

That's probably the safest approach, and the one I'd take.

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Comment from steven on 2010-07-13

2010-07-13T22:54:28Z

does anybody know why Microsoft removed these programs that so many people liked.

Many computer pros such as myself intensely dislike Outlook Express and are happy to see it gone. MANY people lose email and have other problems due to OE. I do wish that MS had fixed it rather than replaced it, but I can only assume that it was architected so poorly that a total replacement was the only viable cure for its many problems.

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Comment from Mr. KHE on 2010-07-01

2010-07-02T03:30:02Z

I spent 3 weeks trying to get Thunderbird to work on my ISP, and finally gave up. It makes a huge difference who you have! I have Comcast.net and Thunderbird has huge problems with comcast because of the authentication codes along with multiple servers with slightly different names. It doesn't stop there, the Help instructions for Thunderbird are not even a replica of the screens you are looking at! Thunderbird Help doesn't even know what Thunderbird screens look like! I'm now using Outlook with windows 7 and am much happier!
I still miss my Outlook Express, but I caution anyone trying to convert to Thunderbird if you ISP is Comcast.net! Seemed like each new day was a different authentication problem.

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Comment from Mr. M. on 2010-06-20

2010-06-20T20:02:18Z

I used Outlook and was disapointed to learn that it was no longer available.

BUT-Check out Mozzila Thunderbird. It is very very much like outlook express.

Good Luck

To be clear: Outlook is still available. It's part of Microsoft Office. Outlook Express is no longer available. The two programs are not related to each other.

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Comment from Bhavik on 2010-06-04

2010-06-04T13:17:31Z

which is best mail storage program ? cause i daily receive 60 mail and i have to use old mails also , so plz somebody advise me to which is best mail program ......

thanks

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Comment from Bhavik on 2010-06-04

2010-06-04T13:12:40Z

i have .pst file , how can i use it in windows live mail ?

You cannot. PST files work only with Microsoft Outlook.

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Comment from xzimppledink on 2010-05-31

2010-05-31T19:19:07Z

I downloaded evolution mail, used in linux distro's, and it works in windows 7. setup is a little more complicated but it is more flexible than outlook express and the "feel is very similar. There is also the option of thunderbird email but I haven't tried that yet.

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Comment from JGT on 2010-05-30

2010-05-31T01:59:52Z

My Mom is 97 years old and has a difficult time with the email program Windows Live Mail. Anybody have a suggestion for an easy to use simple program that mimics OE, does not have these "improvements" that requires new learning?

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Comment from Jim Close on 2010-05-15

2010-05-15T13:23:17Z

My outlook Express is corrupted. I am a computor dummy. Where can I find step by step instructions on how to switch to windows live mail. My computor is XP and about 4-5 yrs old. Thank you.

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Comment from MIke on 2010-05-06

2010-05-06T16:28:12Z

Great Article !

Have you tried the FranklinCovey Software Plugin for Outlook v7 ?

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Take Charge of Work and Home Life PlanPlus is perfect for individuals, managers, or business owners who want to boost productivity immediately while still using the software they use every day. With task, goal, search, and prioritizing features, this easy-to-use program lets you begin implementing FranklinCovey planning concepts right away to become more efficient, more effective, and more organized. Accomplish more in less time New, expanded Home Page customization Break long-term goals into manageable daily tasks View e-mail, tasks, notes, and calendar windows all in a single view Customize your home page with the fonts and colors you like Monitor and manage up to four e-mail accounts Expand or collapse windows according to your needs Turn e-mails into tasks by dragging the e-mail to your Task List Includes new applications for BlackBerry� users

Love it

Mike

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Comment from Elizabeth Boston on 2010-05-03

2010-05-03T14:12:04Z

Some manufacturers preload Windows Live Mail on their new computers, so check before you start downloading.
I have set up Windows Live mail for quite a few customers migrating from XP to Windows 7, and most of them are quite happy with the change. A few miss the identities feature, but with a few rules, you can set Windows Mail up to deliver messages from different email addresses to different folders. Most of the time, my customers are happy with that setup, and usually comment that it is faster than switching identities.
Elizabeth

Thanks Elizabeth!

For others, Elizabeth publishes a weekly newsletter and runs Ask The Computer Lady - another fine resource.

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Comment from DiggerP on 2010-04-29

2010-04-29T16:14:09Z

Hi Leo, Hope you don't take offense to this,but the following statements are not correct:
Quote:"Summary: Windows Mail has been removed from Windows 7, along with several other applications. We'll look at where to find their replacements.
And also here -Q&A - Quote:" You say you don't recommend using Windows Mail on Windows 7. Can you tell us why you don't recommend it ?
Your answer:"Has nothing to do with recommending. It's not available. Windows Live Mail is, but Windows Mail is not." 17-Feb-2010
Windows Mail was NOT removed from Win7 - it's only hidden and not active.
You can reinstate Windows Mail with a few tricks.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/5481-windows-mail.html
or here http://thewindows7site.com/forum/threads/11578-How-to-Reinstate-Windows-Mail-on-Windows-7 .these are only 2 of many covering this subject.Hope you'll vary your statements to reflect reality ,rather than outright claiming that Windows mail is NOT on Win7.
Pete

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Comment from Stephen Lee on 2010-04-06

2010-04-06T18:49:39Z

I have tried to copy my old OE messages from my old to new PC (Windows 7) with WLM. I followed the recommended MS process and all appeared to have gone to plan; however, I cannot find all the old emails and folders in WLM. I had set up my email accounts manually withn WLM and have been sending and receiving emails satisfactorily. Can you please help me find my old emails in WLM.

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Comment from Lorna Jenkin on 2010-03-29

2010-03-29T13:09:09Z

I often have to work without a broadband connection, preparing emails and attachments for sending and browse my folders. I cannot do this online without a signal. Do I really have to buy Outlook? Is there another off-line email program?

There are hundreds if not thousands by now. I use Thunderbird.

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Comment from Cheryl on 2010-03-19

2010-03-20T05:11:41Z

Just Google "install windows mail windows 7" (minus quotes) One of the results on the first page (on a Windows 7 forum) is a tutorial Reinstate and Enable Windows Mail into Windows 7 to be able to use it in Windows 7.

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Comment from Graham on 2010-03-19

2010-03-19T11:56:20Z

Oh!!! and for gods sake don't use that silly little boys Incredimail. That is just a joke and anyone who uses that is looking for trouble.

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Comment from Graham on 2010-03-19

2010-03-19T11:52:47Z

"Windows 7" If you look in program files you will see the is a "windows mail" plus a "Windows live" folder.
The problem is, how do we get it to work?
I have tried and tried but cannot get windows mail working.
Why did Microsoft put the windows mail folder there???
There must be a reason because all the files are in the windows mail folder.
My mind has come to a standstill on this one.
I for one do not like the windows live and I have deleted it from my system and now I use "OUTLOOK" which comes with Microsoft Office.
It is very simmilar to Oulook Express and is very good for a stand alone email client.
But I would sooner have Outlook Express back any day.

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Comment from Ron on 2010-03-17

2010-03-18T02:45:43Z

I am using Incredimail.com and it has everything
you will ever need. Try it

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Comment from matt on 2010-03-12

2010-03-12T15:39:28Z

i will stay with xp pro its the best windows i ever had on my computers i try tham all

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Comment from Ben on 2010-03-10

2010-03-10T22:08:11Z

I agree Outlook Express was the best email program I've used and also miss it.

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Comment from Richard Bean on 2010-03-10

2010-03-10T20:18:13Z

I became an Outlook Express subscriber back in the old webtv days and frankly I miss it. Right now I'm using Gmail but only because there is nothing I have found any better.I would drop it in a minute to get my OE back.

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Comment from james on 2010-02-22

2010-02-23T05:50:22Z

what if you don't want a live sign in, don't want to be part of the microsoft " we have your identity" either. what if you don't want your stuff stored by microsoft. Don't want to have someone out there trying to live chat with me when i just want my mail. Why would I wan't to have my mail server settings held by them.
why would i wan't the security risk of a messaging client.
What about if the chineese compromise the live servers and get your data which you are being forced to give them acess to by setting up live mail client.
They are just doing it so you have mail and a facebook style thing all in one, maybe they want the facebook traffic and this is how they trick you into it. Personaly i don't eat that facebook/ myspace type activity.

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Comment from Steve on 2010-02-17

2010-02-17T13:40:26Z

Hi Everyone
I use Mozilla Thunderbird always have its better than live mail.
Thanks

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Comment from Matt on 2010-02-17

2010-02-17T08:56:30Z

I think Microsoft has left us high and dry. I have tried to to use outlook 2007 and 2003 and does not work. I have tried to download express,Does not work. IT then says to download drivers. I did that. Still doesnt work as they expect you to pay for the program (Paretologic)before you can download and install the drivers.
And they say windows 7 is good? ha

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Comment from John on 2010-02-16

2010-02-16T21:49:40Z

You say you don't recommend using Windows Mail on Windows 7. Can you tell us why you don't recommend it ?

Has nothing to do with recommending. It's not available. Windows Live Mail is, but Windows Mail is not.

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Comment from bill mccollough on 2010-02-16

2010-02-16T14:36:20Z

The problem with live mail is that it has those ignoring ads! Is there anyway to add outlook to windows7? I have the original microsoft office disk for xp. can i add outlook from this disk to windows 7?

You can install Microsoft Office (including Outlook) on Windows 7, yes. Remember that Outlook is NOT the same as Outlook Express.

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Comment from Paulina on 2010-02-14

2010-02-15T05:12:55Z

Hi Leo... thanks for your great article... I didn't know that Outlook express doesn't exist in Windows 7... Is there anyway to import the mails, folders and everything that I had in outlook express to Microsoft Outlook 2007 (please, like teaching ABC to a kid, step by step because I don't speak english and the worst part is I don't know too much about computing stuff) I hope you can understand me... thanks

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Comment from Faye Hall on 2010-02-12

2010-02-13T00:28:30Z

I was searching for Outlook Express to use in Windows 7 and came accross this site. I have been using Windows Live mail and it is alot like OE but I have come accross a snag and I can't find anyone to help me with it. I can receive all my mail but can't under any circumstances send anything out. It just stays in my outbox and tries each time it's turned on. It is very frustrating as I would use it all the time. I don't want to set up another email address somehwere else. I like what I have but can't mail out. Could anyone HELP me,,,,, please....

Nine times out of ten this simply means that your account configuration - specifically the parameters relating to "SMTP" or sending mail server - are incorrect. Double check them.

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Comment from Ian on 2010-02-11

2010-02-11T19:42:43Z

SO, I have XP, can I download and use Windows Live Mail, so that when I upgrade I will not have a problem.
We all know computers are female, but a live mail that works with all systems would be nice!

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Comment from John Clemence on 2010-02-11

2010-02-11T08:49:17Z

Windows Live Mail is NOT a direct replacement for Outlook Express. You buy a new computer with Windows 7 and Office 2007 student/home edition. All well and good BUT this edition does not include Outlook 2007. Fair enough - so you download and install Windows Live Mail and set it up. Again, still all seems fine. AND THEN you type a newslatter in Word 2007 - select send as an email attachment - and it doesn't work. Windows Live Mail doesn't have the MAPI engine (I hope that I have got this bit right) that was included in Outlook Express and Outlook.
Instead you have to save work and then attach it to your email afterwards. So the net result of a massive up-grade and expense is that a job that took two steps - write and send - now requires five steps - write, save, open email, attach and send.
Windows Live Mail is also alone in having plain text tool bars and frankly feels unpleasant by contrast to Office 2007 with its ribbon approach or any of the earlier/other icon driven email progs.
Microsoft seemed to have allowed themselves to be split into competing teams in a way that Apple would never do.

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Comment from Donna Gleason on 2010-02-02

2010-02-03T02:34:05Z

Is Windows Live Mail just Hot Mail?

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Comment from Ernie White on 2010-01-31

2010-01-31T20:48:32Z

I found your site by accident & it's the best accident. The best accident I've ever had. I read this offten.
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Comment from robert p on 2010-01-26

2010-01-27T06:48:20Z

I have Windows 7 and Windows Live, and they both work, but they have NEVER worked together! Meaning that any addy in explorer or a web page or link has to be copied and then pasted into Windows Live "New" mail. I have tried everything to find a way to "associate" IE 8 with Windows Live email. What a pain.

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Comment from Guen Foss on 2010-01-26

2010-01-27T05:35:54Z

Hello Leo -- We love your advice. I have one suggestion -- I have Word 97 for typing letters and have tried and tried to get someone to update so each time I am looking up the subject of my letters the search always goes back to the beginning (I have 350 letters in it)so it takes me a long time to find Apples and then have to go to the beginning to get to the Thermostat letters. My Xerox Memorywriter was easier than Word as it had a quick "Find" key on it. See what you can do! I have called and written to Microsoft 5 times. Best regards.

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Comment from Zeta on 2010-01-26

2010-01-27T02:37:53Z

Can you use Windows Live Mail in Windows XP?

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Comment from Arty3591 on 2010-01-26

2010-01-27T00:48:57Z

I replaced Vista with 7 because it was part of the computer purchase; took forever, between back-up,and download; it was O.K. EXCEPT that everything is tied to Windows Live; so that the startup suddenly was a slowup; and the contacts from OE got all fouled up; took ages to alphabetize, and then it insisted on first names first even when it was set for last names...so I did the only sensible thing; dumped it out, went back to Vista, and windows mail...much more manageable, and way faster....Windows Live arrogates to itself grabbing everything first....I don't see how that's improvement...

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Comment from Glendon Lakes on 2010-01-26

2010-01-27T00:11:09Z

I help senior citizens with computers and wish that Microsoft had included a basic e-mail program with System 7. I personally use Outlook so no problem. My wife wants Incredimail on hers and I experimented and found it will work on System 7. I will probably recommend Thunderbird to senior citizens since it has a rather plain page and shouldn't be much of a learning curve for them coming from Outlook Express. Windows Live Mail seems awkward. I didn't have much trouble converting from Vista as long as I paid attention to getting 64 bit downloads. That was more of a concern than moving to System 7 with printers, scanners, etc.

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Comment from Linde Nobre on 2010-01-26

2010-01-26T23:21:16Z

I have switched to Incredimail - paid 29 $ for life - years ago. I like it and find it very practical, it has an extremely relyable backup and transfer feature. However, for all those who do not want to pay, I sincerely advice to install and use Mozilla applications instead. They are legally for free, work well, and Mozilla provides a backup-feature.
Anyway, I also advice to avoid all new versions of any microsoft programs unless you do not really have a problem with the old one. They are made uniquely for you to spend money!

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Comment from Branko on 2010-01-23

2010-01-24T06:24:05Z

Just a little story. I got used to Windows XP, liked it, but got tired of limited usage, window explorer errors, not able to preview my digital Mpeg 4 files. I tried Vista 64 bit OS. After more frustration, not accepting my good and old programs, I returned that junky software with a brand new PC from the Future Shop. The PC should be renamend to Gates Way! The story continues. Bought Easy Media Creator 2009 from Roxio to replace the older version from 2008, hoping that it would work better with Vista. Program was very slow and crashing, did not notice any changes to the software except the new cover and graphics. The program was identical. I also forgot about the 32 and 64 bit headache. Another grab for money?! Unable to do my holiday videos and media files, I switched to Windows 7. This Roxio program would not even start on my Windows after downloading it and I was prompt to buy the upgrade to Roxio Creator 2010 from their website and to spend another 100 $. I am speechless. On top of that my digital camera Canon Power Shot, one of the best on market was not compatible, because the driver was not recognized and so is the installed software Zoombrowser I got used to and loved it. Another device would not work was the CapWiz, needed to transfer old analog files on HD and to make them digital. Another setback! There is no Outlook Express, so I am now stuck and start hating all this Windows and Creators. It is unbelievable how much money is asked for a new software and how little is made in effort to make it user friendly. I do not care about new appearances in software. I do not care about a fancy cover! I want a program that works, is compatible and not irritating, because I do not get paid for my lost time, like those messing up already good features in already existing and popular programs. Get rid off the bad stuff, improve it, add new and keep it the way it was originally designed to serve the people. Thank you.

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Comment from Diane on 2010-01-16

2010-01-16T20:26:44Z

I just got a new laptop with the NEW WINDOWS 7. I hated XP, but...Windows 7 is very confusing and takes too long to get use to!!!! I am upset about not having the CLASSIC VIEW and also OUTLOOK EXPRESS!!! I am concidering going to MAC the next time I upgrade! BOO-HOO BILL GATES! YOU SUCK BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!

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Comment from JOHN on 2010-01-15

2010-01-15T18:07:15Z

Hi, I have upgraded from Vista to Windows 7 & use Incredimail as my email provider. However, I have a HTC TyTN PDA which uses Outlook. I linked the TyTN to my pc & it asked for the Outlook CD and it downloaded it & is working fine.
I'm not a pc pro so I don't know how it is able to work ok on my Windows 7

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Comment from steven richards on 2010-01-08

2010-01-09T00:31:01Z

After years of using outlook express 6, I downloaded and installed windows live and like it. One thing that is missing is a place to check always open email in my inbox, not the last folder used. I still have Windows XP. Does anybody know wheree it is?

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Comment from Alex Munro on 2010-01-05

2010-01-06T02:16:09Z

I've purchased a new laptop, runs windows 7 with Live. Old machine is still running with Outlook Express. Can open and read all mail with old machine but only get some on the new machine. Why? Particularly frustrating and am wondering if all emails sent from new machine have made it to destination? What am I doing wrong?

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Comment from Joe on 2009-12-30

2009-12-30T20:39:09Z

I have built a new PC & have Windows 7 64 bit on it . I have Windows Live & can get my mail from my Outlook Express address on my new PC . I have my old XP PC in another room . If I check my Outlook Express on my XP machine , all the mail that I got on my Windows 7 transfers to my XP leaving my Windows live mail with the same address empty . How do I stop this from happening ?

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Comment from Diana on 2009-12-29

2009-12-29T17:58:25Z

Windows 7 is a good leap forward from Vista. I am using Earthlink MailBox for some years now. Have tried a varieties of Email Programs and considered Earthlink MailBox is probably the best in "fencing off" the unwanted senders.
In Vista -I have Ultimate installed in my Laptop- it's just not possible to install indipendently the Earthlink Mailbox. With Windows 7, the XP Mode is a life saver. Though XP Mode only available on Windows 7 Pro., Business and Ultimate, I was able to install the Earthlink MailBox indipendently on my other Laptop runing Windows 7 Home Premium without any problem.
The question now is where to download the used to be free Outlook Express. Probably Leo can answer this.

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Comment from m. boardman on 2009-12-24

2009-12-24T18:53:37Z

Well here is a HAPPY STORY. My XP desktop crashed; was able to have the geeks back up my broken hard drive on an external hard drive. They salvaged my old emails in .dbx format ( I have 100s in different folders w/ attachments etc.)
After much searching and trying, I now have my email back. Here is what I did:
1. Bought a new computer; windows 7 (yea another operating system - so far so good)
2. created windows live id and account
3. open up the windows live, up date and get it running; along the top bar, rt side, select menu, select open menu bar.
4. Select file, import (for me it was outlook express 6 files), browse to find your .dbx files.
5. It actually worked! not bad for a non-computer person

All folders, files and attachments are there, in order. This is a a VERY Merry Christmas for me - I wish all of you the same!

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Comment from nick on 2009-12-20

2009-12-21T02:28:36Z

re: windows live mail

i've read all these comments, and I too am frustrated with windows live mail.
I use it under vista, BUT it is available under windows 7.

despite my frustrations (primariliy with how the CONTACTS are stored, not able to retrieve groups, etc), I think many of you are missing somethign.

If you start windows live mail, and do NOT SIGN IN, you can use it to send/retrieve mail, per multiple individual accounts, using POP and STMP accounts, and read/store these emails on your desktop. you do NOT need to go online to their mail sites ( I DETEST online mail due especially to the home pages, etc)

Tools / Accounts is what allows you to set up different emil accounts, similar to the IDENTITIES on outlook express.

Hope this helps some of the users.

If any of YOU users can recommend a better contact-management program, that allows me to store emails/contcts by groups, etc, AND EXPORT/RETRIEVE/MERGE these groups (windows live can't export groups addresses), I'd appreciate it

nick

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Comment from IT Master Services on 2009-12-20

2009-12-21T00:05:00Z

Microsoft resellers can sell OEM versions of all software for less, but the buyer then becomes the so called "system builder" and voids all support from Microsoft!

www.itmaster-reno.com

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Comment from Richard W. Kimball on 2009-12-18

2009-12-18T18:12:33Z

Yikes! I've tried several times to work with Windows Live Mail and it doesn't work well for me. Too many hoops to jump through. For one thing, my Kaspersky Security Suite doesn't scan incoming emails for spam junk, viruses, malware, etc. Does Windows Live Mail work and look like Outlook Express? Absolutely not! Right now, I'm using Eudora for my emails, but the company that made it is no longer supporting it. Eudora works somewhat like Outlook Express, but there's still a lot to be desired. So far, I havent' figured out how to get it to access more than one email account. An email program called The Bat looks promising.

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Comment from Iris Abaecherli on 2009-12-13

2009-12-13T21:24:11Z

Used Outlook Express for years, mailing lists/contact groups with 50 entries max in order not to be considered spam by ISP. Using Windows mail and Vista at the moment and I do not agree that Windows mail is exactly like Outlook Express. Outlook Express is a lot better and Windows Mail so far is annoyingly slow, clunky and does not allow me to have the groups/mailing lists the way they were. Had no trouble to import the whole address book from Outlook Express, but using Windows Mail? NO if I can help it: am now looking for a way to get Outlook Express working on Vista, anybody doing this? help available?

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Comment from Nathan Griffin on 2009-12-05

2009-12-05T19:12:14Z

I am trying to migrate Outlook Express (XP) to Win 7 Outlook. The W7 Outlook gives instructions in its help menu, but refers to its own OE version which doesn't exist, as mentioned above. I tried downloading the Virtual PC program as suggested above, but it will not download for Home Edition. Win 7 Live Mail does not look like OE as mentioned above, and does not have the options listed in the conversion instructions in the Outlook 7 Help. Do you have any ideas for converting the data from the older OE to Outlook 7?

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Comment from Hilton on 2009-12-02

2009-12-02T20:11:54Z

Install Windows Virtual PC and Windows XP mode and you can run all your programs from XP on Windows 7, get them here : http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx

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Comment from Joe Charbonneau on 2009-11-28

2009-11-29T04:21:07Z

Window's 7 may not have your Outlook Express , but there is incredimail and it will work with window's 7 . It may not be Outlook Express ,but it works much the same

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Comment from Eugenia on 2009-11-25

2009-11-25T21:21:11Z

We really want to be able to use Outlook Express on Window 7. I am prepared to pay extra, but I am not happy with anything else, can't Microsoft help? eugenia

Given all the other things that people want from Windows, and all the directions Microsoft wants to take Windows, throw in the fact that Outlook Express had many, many problems (I hear about them all the time) - I would not expect Outlook Express on Windows 7 to be a priority for Microsoft to spend any energy on.

26-Nov-2009

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Comment from Stephen on 2009-11-25

2009-11-25T18:39:10Z

I upgraded my Lap-Top from Windows Vista to Windows 7(64 bit) and I noticed that Windows Mail is not on the Computer any more. I want to use Microsoft Outlook (if I can) and want to import my e-mail that I had from Windows Maill in to Microsoft Outlook. Where did Microsoft hide my
E-mail files? I can not find them in Windows 7 so I can copy it to Microsoft Ooutlook 2000. Please Help.

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Comment from Brian Walters on 2009-11-25

2009-11-25T09:19:37Z

I don't know what all the fuss is about. 'Live Mail' is exactly like outlook express under the bonnet.
The only difference is each email address, if you have more than one, has now a separate entry. Making it easier to control each email address.
If you put your old hard disc into your new computer, you can import your address book into Live Mail from it just as Outlook used to.
Again we are seeing the 'Luddites' refusing to move on, and learn new tricks.

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Comment from CalMyPal on 2009-11-23

2009-11-23T17:22:06Z

If you have Microsoft Office, you can still use Outlook for your e-mail in Windows 7.

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Comment from Jeffrey Forman on 2009-11-17

2009-11-17T19:19:42Z

There are a number of different versions of Windows 7. A number of "large" dealers are offering Windows 7 OEM for terrific prices. What is cut out from this OEM version? Does it allow for a clean install?

Typically OEM versions are sold to large manufacturer's like Dell and others for installation on a single, new machine. The licsense does not allow for installing on replacement or other machines. Technically it's usually the same product, except that the manifacturer may also include their specific drivers and other software.

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Comment from Monique on 2009-11-15

2009-11-16T03:57:42Z

We buy new computer, new licence new vista, new windows7 et we cannot continue to use Outlook express with nice paper, I don't like to receive white paper and black font to read an email
and we are lossing contacts and start over
which trip is it to confuse people or to sell more computer, and more license???
I'm locky a have my old computer with xp and outlook express

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Comment from amandacurran@bigpond.com on 2009-11-15

2009-11-16T03:07:56Z

Can't believe it, I've paid thousands for a new computer with windows 7 and can't access Outlook express, I have never used any other programe, and don't want to. now what do I do...I did tell the man at Harvey Norman I use outlook he never told me I couldnt use it on windows 7. I feel like packing the whole lot up and dumping it at Harvey Norman,

Be careful with the terminology: Outlook and Outlook Express are not the same thing. Outlook works just fine. Outlook Express is not available.

16-Nov-2009

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Comment from SgtSally on 2009-11-15

2009-11-16T00:10:33Z

Isn't this all about "monetizing" e-mail and driving customers to the Microsoft site where you must endure reading your e-mails amidst a perimeter of strobing flash ads?

And this is a web based service. Would anyone be content with a Post Office where you go to read your mail but must leave them there? When I get mail, I want to GET it and keep it if I wish too.

Once Yahoo killed my ID and all my e-mails for some reason I could never find out. I could never even talk to a live person. Just one day - blink! - everything gone.

If you review the TOS for Windows Live Mail, it likely says they can delete your account, at their discretion, at any time, for any reason without notice or explanation.

How is that an improvement?

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Comment from Whattheheck? on 2009-11-10

2009-11-10T23:00:01Z

This is going to push more people away from Microsoft. How dare they say "you spoke, we listened" then go and take away something and just assume the customers will accept it. Well Microsoft, if you are listening, bring OE back and make it free. I was going to upgrade 3 computers but this move has lost them money. I refuse to buy the software for the other 2 systems.

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Comment from Oldcoot on 2009-11-10

2009-11-10T14:50:18Z

Yes, I'm a hardhead, and Windows 7 SUCKS! Outlook Express is my way of emailing and since it is not included in 7 I have returned to Vista. I have tried the new "Live Mail" and it is not acceptable to me.
Since 7 was a free update I have trashed it and returned to Vista. I pity the poor folks who have to pay for the "update" and find OE not there.

7 may be more stable and all that garbage but OE works for me.

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Comment from Penny D on 2009-11-09

2009-11-09T18:18:13Z

Just got Windows 7 and it sucks that the edit/ source/preview tabs that have been in Outlook Express and Windows Mail have been removed from Windows Live Mail, what the heck was the reason for that I wonder?

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Comment from Ivica Duspara on 2009-11-08

2009-11-09T05:01:08Z

I love windows mail and outlook exspress.
I is no fair that microsoet is taking them out in wwindows7

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Comment from The Canadian Geezer on 2009-11-07

2009-11-08T07:34:46Z

This is one move that will backfire on Microsoft and will be the start of a significant slide in old users trust. OE has become a trusted institution for its simplicity of use and standardized user interface and there are blessed few of those sort of things in the digital world.

This is a huge mistake for Microsoft and a terrible wrench thrown into a new OS by its absence. I dare say this will be a greater �clutch� issue and aversion than all the user permissions on Vista were � mark my words a huge mistake that will defer people to look at Mac, Linux etc etc!

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Comment from Glenn P. on 2009-11-06

2009-11-06T21:13:44Z

Does Thunderbird do newsgroups, the way OE does???

Yes.

07-Nov-2009

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Comment from PCTyson on 2009-11-05

2009-11-06T03:12:32Z

Just one more reason that Windows will continue to be bloatware. They will always have to support obsolete technologies and methods. It always amazes me how resistant people are to change yet they are the first to complain that "nothing changes". I haven't used Outlook Express in years. If I get one more e-mail with the .eml extension I am going to choke someone. I have been using Windows 7 beta for many months. It is rock solid and it closes a lot of security gaps. All of you out there who refuse to change, I don't want to hear you complain that "my computers slow". You are probably a bot for half a dozen spammers out there. Just pay the computer tech and quit griping about how expensive it is to have your computer deloused.

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Comment from mark on 2009-11-05

2009-11-05T21:50:41Z

More reasons than ever not to upgrade, not to pay, not to participate in Microsoft's ongoing crusade to manipulate, bully and dominate the marketplace to which it feels entitled.
Microsoft has perpetrated the biggest technological consumer experiment in history, and this is yet another chapter in it's shabby legacy.

-JUST SAY NO!-

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Comment from E perry on 2009-11-03

2009-11-03T20:32:32Z

I Installed windows 7 on my notebook, I have 3 other computers which I will not update to win 7 as the outlook express is not available.

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Comment from Edward on 2009-11-03

2009-11-03T18:58:12Z

Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail, and Thunderbird are not adequate replacements for Outlook Express. That's because none of those programs provide the "Identities" feature. If you don't use or understand Identities, you can pass this off as an unimportant extra, but those of us who do use it feel that it's an essential item for any respectable e-mail program. We are not weirdos or cranks. We just feel that this important feature should not have been discontinued. I'm unhappy enough that I won't ever upgrade to any new Microsoft O.S. unless they bring back Outlook Express or a viable replacement. When they no longer provide security patches for XP, I'll move to another platform. I don't need to stick with Microsoft to use Thunderbird. I can use it with a Linux machine, or if I win the lottery, a Macintosh. If e-mail is a user's chief concern, the much maligned Windows ME is a far more usable operating system than Windows 7. Incidentally, I've been using the Release Candidate of Windows 7 for some time and have found that one workaround for the Outlook Express problem is to run an older version of Windows in Microsoft's Virtual PC. It works, but what a pain! And possibly insecure too.

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Comment from Pat on 2009-11-03

2009-11-03T16:43:25Z

I have read somewhere on the net where you can get windwos mail to work with windows 7. I wish I had the information now as I will be getting my new computer today. I have vista on this laptop and like windows mail. I hope Microsoft will eventually let us download windows mail.
Pat

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Comment from Terence on 2009-11-03

2009-11-03T15:13:05Z

I have always used Microsoft Mail and cannot get around to use other mail alternatives, I think Microsoft is the best regardless what they say about Microsoft, its still No 1.

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Comment from Robert on 2009-11-03

2009-11-03T14:10:05Z

I am disappointed that Windows Mail is not available. I want a mail program that includes the Edit, Source and Preview buttons.

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Comment from Mark Jacobs on 2009-10-29

2009-10-29T23:15:39Z

I've been using Win7 since the RC came out and I didn't even realize that a mail client was missing from Windows until reading about it last week. Try Thunderbird you might like it. It's free and has some great add-ons that give you almost any feature you could need or want. Of course, if you use MS-Office Outlook, you'll want to stick with that as that has features you might have grown dependent on.

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