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There are approaches to data recovery that can sometimes retrieve deleted data. To ensure that your data is really gone requires a few extra steps.

I appreciate that a normal file delete simply removes the file name from the directory system and marks clusters as available for reuse. I also realize that, just as trying to stick one piece of paper over another identical sized piece will normally leave a small amount of the lower piece exposed, so overwriting a disk leaves small areas with the original magnetization. Is it reasonable to assume that recovering overwritten information is so expensive that it would only be attempted for disks storing very valuable information?

How does Windows deal with a normal File Save? Does it attempt to rewrite the file to the same clusters, simply returning excess cluster to the available pool if the new file is smaller than the original and adding a few new clusters if the new file is larger than the original? If every File Save is to a new area of disk, then what I am suggesting will obviously not work, but if clusters are reused as far as possible, then is this a feasible way for people to deal with small amounts of moderately sensitive data?

Are there snags to password protecting a file? I have only a few password protected files, and I protected them so long ago that I have forgotten how I did it. If I were to now password protect existing files, the file system would obviously only know about the password protected files, but would the old files still be in their original clusters?

You've raised several good points all around saving files and the potential chance of recovering said files even after they've been deleted. Sometimes that's a good thing (recovering a file you "accidentally" deleted) or a bad thing (someone else recovering a file you didn't want them to see).

There are several assumptions in your questions as well, and as we'll see in a minute, assumptions are rarely a good thing.

I like your overlapping paper analogy, since in essence it's exactly right. If each "bit" on a hard disk is represented by a single piece of paper that's, say, either black or white, then you'd think of writing new data to the disk as putting down a new layer of pieces of paper over what's there already. But as you say, you still might be able to see the color of the paper just underneath what you just put down. Or the one underneath that. Or the one underneath that.

And indeed, this is exactly how extremely advanced computer forensics can sometimes recover "old" data on the disk. By using special tools to examine the disk media, they can sometimes reconstruct the data that was on the disk prior to what's there now. And sometimes even the data before that.

"The safest assumption is worst assumption: assume that Windows will re-allocate disk space in the worst possible way for your security needs."

The good news is that no, it's not easy, and does as I understand it, require special equipment. I don't know if commercially available data recovery services make this type of recovery available, but I would expect it to be expensive. And of course I'd expect some government and perhaps even some corporate facilities to have this technology available. (And for the record this only applies to magnetic material. As I understand it, anything that's written into solid-state devices like flash drives completely overwrites the prior contents.)

So, yes, I'd currently expect it to be attempted only when there's something very valuable to be recovered. Though, of course, we've seen technology improve over time, so who knows if that's going to be a valid assumption a year or five in the future?

Which leads me to your question about cluster re-use. First, we need to clarify that exactly how clusters are re-used depends not on Windows as much as the format you chose for your hard disk. FAT32, for example, allocates file on disk very differently than NTFS does.

All that being said, we could certainly figure out the file systems re-use algorithm, (hint: it doesn't try to re-use recently released clusters, it more likely attempts to allocate clusters in such a way as to reduce disk head movement), but since that's dependent on the file system, and could easily change, we'd be making an assumption. And if we're making security decisions based on that assumption, that could be a very dangerous approach.

The safest assumption is worst assumption: assume that Windows will re-allocate disk space in the worst possible way for your security needs. For example that means that you should never assume that the act of saving a file in any way will (which also depends on the application involved as well as the operating system) overwrite exactly the file's old clusters. New clusters may well be allocated somewhere else entirely, and the old clusters will be marked "free", but otherwise remain untouched and discoverable by recovery tools. It's not guaranteed that will happen, but from a security perspective it's what you should assume.

Which brings me to your final point: password protected files. Without knowing exactly how you've protected the files it's impossible to say what might happen. However, we can make some general statements:

  • A password protected file is likely "just a file". That means whenever you change it, copy it, rewrite it or whatever, the clusters it previously occupied may still remain unused and discoverable on disk.

  • Many password protection schemes do not actually encrypt the file's contents, or use a very "light" encryption. That means that the contents of the file might actually be easily visible outside of the file's intended application.

  • File system specific encryption and passwording might be more secure, but there are tradeoffs, and it's still safest to assume the worst.

So if we're assuming the worst (contents of deleted files might remain discoverable for a long time, encrypted files aren't really very special, and even overwritten files might be recoverable with enough resources), what's a person to do?

First: understand your exposure: do you really have something on your hard disk that anyone else would care about? For as many people that ignore security completely, there are just as many that over-state their security and privacy needs. As I've said before, for many of us we're just not that interesting. No one wants to steal the pictures of your puppies or your email to your grandma.

Second: understand the risk: you're much more at risk from security issues elsewhere. Pissing off your waiter, and then giving him your credit card is my favorite example. But even elsewhere it's more likely that the paper bank statements you put out for curbside recycling are much more likely to be stolen than the information within the deleted files on your hard drive.

If you do have legitimate and important security needs, my advice is threefold:

  • Use an open source and proven encryption tool like TrueCrypt with an appropriately secure passphrase to keep your important documents, or perhaps your entire hard drive, secure.

  • If you're concerned about deleted file or empty space recovery, use a tool like SDelete (Secure Delete) which will delete and overwrite a file multiple times, and also has an option to overwrite the free space on your drive so that too becomes unrecoverable.

  • If you're concerned about the prior contents of the used space on your hard disk, then I'd use a tool like SpinRite which as part of it's drive maintenance will rewrite every cluster on your hard disk several times, effectively removing any prior images "peeking out" from underneath the magnetic equivalent of those slips of paper we talked about earlier.

I'll wrap up by summarizing what I do.

I do use TrueCrypt to encrypt all my "sensitive" files on all my systems. By sensitive I mean my financial records, my master list of passwords and so on.

I also use TrueCrypt to encrypt a large partition on my laptop that contains all of my work. This isn't as sensitive, but since laptops are more easily stolen it just makes sense to ensure that if it is, my work documents, web site files and client information isn't unnecessarily exposed.

I rarely use SDelete. With my use of encryption, there's rarely anything to delete that would be left exposed on disk that I might care about.

I use SpinRite not for its security aspects described above, but as a maintenance tool to keep my hard disks performing their best.

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Leo Leo A. Notenboom has been playing with computers since he was required to take a programming class in 1976. An 18 year career as a programmer at Microsoft soon followed. After "retiring" in 2001, Leo started Ask Leo! in 2003 as a place for answers to common computer and technical questions. More about Leo.

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March 5, 2008 10:17 PM

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Natalie Kehr
March 7, 2008 10:24 PM

Thanks Leo. The question was prompted by a not-very-computer-literate retired doctor who still had patient records on her computer. The people selling her a new computer offered to physically destroy her old drive. I don't like the idea of destroying a perfectly good drive, and I also feel she should not let the drive out of her possession until she has removed all traces of patient data.

SDelete's writeup does not mention XP amongst the operating systems. Is this a documentation oversight? Her sensitive data has already been moved to the recycle bin, and that has been emptied. I have no experience in interpreting command line parameters, so we would be very grateful if you could tell us exactly what we should type in order to cleanse the free areas of her C drive.

I was considering spending 8 dollars and getting her PC Magazine's Shred 2 utility.,1895,219998,00.asp
Does anyone have any feedback about that product.

Nicholas Gimbrone
March 8, 2008 6:27 PM

It would actually be rare that a write to a file would reuse the same cluster that the original data was in, as this would lead to a file system which was unstable in case of crashes (power outage, etc) in the middle of a rewrite of a file. In fact, much software will actually write an entire new file with the new content under a temporary name, and then do a rename of the two files to move the original to a temp file and the temp to the original filename, then finally remove the original file in its new name. (And yes, many variations on this theme exist. ;-)

Ken Crook
March 8, 2008 10:19 PM

To delete the secure content on a disk, could you create a large file and copy it many times. Then defrag the disk. Then delete the files you created, including the ones you want to get rid of. Then defrag the disk again.
Wouldn't this scramble the disk contents that don't get deleted enough so everything would be unreadable except to the most sophisticated recovery tools. Unless you are doing something highly classified, or illegal, wouldn't this be enough for most personal files?

Leo A. Notenboom
March 9, 2008 9:22 PM

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SDelete works just fine in XP :-).

Another (free) option to wipe the hard drive is "Darik's
Boot and Nuke" (DBAN).


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March 10, 2008 12:17 AM

Use a program like DBAN (Darik's Boot and Nuke - hard disk WIPE). Freeware (just google - program and faq). Create a boot cd (or a boot floppy if the computer has a floppy drive), then run with multi-pass. Can take awhile (run overnight for the 32 pass wipe, but that might be overkill - the DOD 7 pass wipe might suffice), but it does work - disk is CLEAN.

michael morrissey
January 27, 2012 7:01 PM

your information was of no help to me, what i want to do is to recover a specifie email address that i accidentaly deleted form my ignore files. that is all i wish to accomplish. can you help me do thisor not?

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