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If you're behind a router and/or the person you want to talk to is behind a router you can have problems with audio in MSN Instant Messenger.
Why can't I have an Audio conversation using MSN Messenger?
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For what it's worth ... neither can I. But I know why.
One of the very common devices in use these days is the broadband router. These boxes allow you to connect one or more computers to your high speed internet connection. Besides letting more than one computer share a single connection to the internet, broadband routers are one of the safest ways to connect because of a technology called "Network Address Translation" or NAT.
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Using NAT, your computer is effectively "hidden" behind your router. For example, each computer will be assigned a private IP or network address that works only behind the router. When that computer then communicates across the internet that Network Address gets Translated to a real, publicly visible internet address. It's safe because from the internet side of the router there's no way to initiate contact with any computers on the private side (unless the router has been explicitly configured to allow certain types of contact).
Unfortunately that means that some communications protocols which try to send the address of computer A behind a NAT router over to computer B somewhere on the internet are destined to fail. They'll send the private address computer A has been assigned, which computer B not being on the private network cannot use.
And so it is with MSN Messenger's Audio (as well as Video and as I understand it, file transfer) protocols. They apparently transmit the IP addresses of both sides of the conversation in ways that NAT routers don't know how to translate. So if there's a NAT anywhere in-between the conversation can't happen.
Microsoft Support has a knowledgebase article that gives essentially the same overview, though their discussion is limitted to Windows 2000 Internet Connection Sharing as the NAT router. (Step one of their "workaround" is to install a proxy server instead, which is no small amount of work.) Whether you're using Windows internet connection sharing or some other type of NAT router the concepts and the resulting problem are the same.
So for now those of us behind NAT routers are safe, but at the cost of not being able to use the audio and video features of Messenger.
It's my understanding though I've not confirmed is that some other instant messaging products such as AOL Instant Messenger (AIM) may use a different protocol and hence may not be affected by this issue.
You can learn much more about NAT here.
Article C1845 - September 27, 2003 « »
February 23, 2009 11:15 AM
can i knw why the msn messenger 9.0 keeps on signing out?by itself?iv tried installing it from 5 different sources..does messenger live 9.0 ask for a very high internet connection to run on?
October 13, 2009 11:43 PM
I can use Skype and LogiTech Vid without problems on my laptop(sound & video come thru) With Messenger I see but don't hear my opponent. He can see and hear me. There is something weard with Messenger!
November 30, 2009 5:29 PM
Great information! Easy to understand language too... I actually didn't understand what NAT routers were, but I do now with the way you explain it. As a side notw, whenever my usband explains anything to me, it's in technical garble and I sometimes I have a hard time with it, even though I've been in the IT business for years(sort of-I'm an IT writer) But links aren't working.. I was going to use your article as a reference for one of mine, but because the links aren't working, so I won't be able to, as my editor will chastise me for sending readers to a page that doesn't work properly... . You might want to fix them. Sorry dude...
JC Torpey
March 10, 2010 1:11 PM
I CAN'T GET A VOICE AND A VIDEO CONVERSATION.
April 2, 2010 9:17 AM
I have Windows Vista and a linksys router, how do I configure the router so that I can get MSN video cal audio to work please?